Yeah, so many bones had been broken and repositioned that Culber thought Ash's irregularities were from torture and imprisonment. Ash killed him when he finally caught on that he was a Klingon.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x04 - "Moist Vessel"
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Why wouldn't they do an in-depth reading when it literally takes a minute? Especially when the individual in question is going to be the security chief on your super-secret science vessel with Spore Drive?
I get the angle that you're coming from, but the way it is presented in the show boils down to either incompetence or laziness on the part of the doctors examining TyVoq.
It's a big plot hole but I just try to mentally retcon it to be no worse than McCoy not knowing Klingon anatomy by 2293 or not seeing any Augment Klingons during the first two seasons of DSC. There are ways to explain it but nothing that doesn't make you sigh.
Again I don't see it that way. The technology and the TOS era was never as perfect as portrayed in TNG where TNG sensors could discern anything as long as someone modulated something.
The original CMO saw the data but again figured it was due to Klingon torture techniques. It wasn't until after Ash committed questionable acts and murdered someone, that others went back to reevaluate. Again nobody's perfect except for Berman and Braga's 24th century mannequins.
I have to go back and take another look, but I don't remember him killing anyone but Culber. Because he uncovered his secret in a minute.
Like I said Culber took took another look because he was suspicious; and after he was murdered the CMO went over the data again and informed everyone that Ash appeared to be a modified Klingon spy.
It has been a couple of years since I've seen the episode. But doesn't Culber mention TyVoq is a Klingon before his neck is snapped like a Number Two pencil?
Yes. That doesn't change any of what I said above.
It still means that Culber figured out in a minute or two, with the same instruments the prior physician had, that Tyler was a Klingon.
Yes it means Culber took a look and had a different interpretation once he put two and two together. That doesn't make the CMO incompetent. Not everyone will automatically come to the same conclusion looking at the same data. Again the CMO stated that she thought what she was seeing was caused by Klingon interrogation techniques. Oh my God someone in Starfleet made a mistaken assumption - how unrealistic... Oh wait
No reason to fly off the handle because someone disagrees with you.
Who's playing off the handle per se. Again, I think someone's too used to TNG where everybody's perfect the technology never makes a mistake and everything's instantly and easily recognizable and there's only one conclusion to me made from any scanner reading.
It just feels like it wasn't well thought out, which is the show's overall biggest problem. Long meandering plots that don't seem to fit together very well.
Trust me, I know Star Trek has done it before, and will do it again. But in the age of streaming and one long season based arc, it feels like they should at least be able to keep things going to a degree that their characters don't look incompetent.
I'm just discussing my POV. You're the one with the "OMG!!! Someone's complaining!!! Someone dares to have their own read of a situation that is different from mine!!!"
The damndest thing is, they could have easily made it all work with Tyler having come in the night before and Culber talking about more invasive scans being done that take time. Then he reads the scans and gets his neck snapped.
Having been in a hospital more often than I care to admit I can say that two doctors can come from two different points of view and conclusions more often than I thought possible.
It does happen, no doubt about it. But it seems if the first doctor has any question about irregularities, they would confer with a second doctor on staff before giving someone a clean bill of health. Especially when you're going to give him free reign to wonder around your super secret starship.
Again, what I would expect to happen and what does are often very different.
And I'm discussing mine, without I might add saying someone else is 'flying off the handle' because I don't respond top you with "OMG - you're absolutely right." I NEVER attacked you personally or accused you of 'flying off the handle' - I was just stating a position different from yours and you were the one dragging it out.
Not to mention the need for some doctors to one-up each other (happened to my dad a few years back), due to some of them being so arrogant, as having a serious God complex. Alec Baldwin did a movie back in the 90's, called "Malice", which demonstrated how off-the rails doctors can get if they're not reigned in and have some kind of basic moral compass. I've been fortunate enough not to have experienced that myself... yet.
The sarcastic response could appear to be OTT and complaining about others complaining.
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