how much exposition fits in 20 minutes of runtime?
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x04 - "Moist Vessel"
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It was more a comment on new Trek in general, I like Lower Decks a lot so far.
I get it. And I know tastes differ, but from my POV, the less exposition the better. Not every blank has to be filled
That seems ludicruously impractical and doesn't take into account anyone from off-ship that she might encounter. Much easier to control the issue at the source. Is it any worse than expecting people to wear clothes so that their naughty bits aren't dangling out all the time?
Your example of vaccinations would work better in the case of Starfleet officers going to Orion.
Indeed. Starfleet never mandated that all non-Deltans need take an Oath of Celebacy, only Deltans themselves as a requirement of membership. That precedent has already been set. Interesting concept, but it led to one of the most cringe-worthy scenes of TMP when Ilia arrived on the bridge. Just glad they decided to not include “love instructors” in the final cut.
However, that concept would make for some interesting storylines in this new show. Hmmm...
However, that concept would make for some interesting storylines in this new show. Hmmm...
You know, I love to bash Discovery and Picard with the best of them, but this doesn't make any sense. Star Trek fans have been filling in holes for fifty-plus years now. Generally speaking, there aren't too many airtight stories, especially where sci-fi is concerned.
Fans have been doing that since 1966. Why change now?
Precisely.
Writers not knowing what they are talking about is the famous Star Trek tradition! Just as having terrible finale episodes...
The Cerritos probably doesn't have space to accommodate twice its complement comfortably. The humongous generation ship does.
The show and the Tellarite captain himself stated his reason for moving closer. He was fuming over a rivalry with Capt. Freeman (no doubt exacerbated by Mariner's dissing him as boring) and didn't want to be perceived as secondary in the mission. For whatever reason in his mind, moving the Merced closer to the generation ship signaled that the Merced was the lead ship in the joint endeavor. The show had him staring at Freeman's picture on the screen and fuming. He then gave the order, which a member of his crew questioned. He responded something along the lines of "We're the lead shp, and our position should reflect that."
Now if you want to say it was a bad reason, or it's crazy to think that being 100 kilometers away from the ship makes them more in charge than being 1000 kilometers, right there with you. But people have certainly had random dick-measuring contests before.
It would have been nice to see Freeman or someone be like, "Nice job, Durango. WTF were you thinking?" But there's only so many minutes in the show.
These second-tier captains really do have delicate ego issues.
Was there a rivalry between him and Captain Freeman? The show certainly didn't make that clear, him staring at a pic of the latter on the viewscreen doesn't really count.
And yeah I realise he moved it closer to try and show dominance, but it was so weird and stupid it's a shame they couldn't think of a better reasoning.
8, but with some issues. On the one hand I liked there was genuine sci-fi plot/crisis and that cold intro actually led to the episode proper this time, but on the other hand the situation with Mariner itelf was for a long time uninteresting and I could yawn a little myself... And the strife between Tendi and the ascending guy was ended memorably, but before that I had no idea if I should care.
The ending made it worth it, definitely.
The ending made it worth it, definitely.
The presence of hibernation chambers doesn't mean it wasn't a generational ship. They might have been using a survival strategy that required *both*, depending on their tech level and how far they were trying to go.
They missed an opportunity with the telleritte and Mariener. Could have had her go after him verbally and him hitting back, showing tellerites love of arguing. And him liking Mariner
There was never a point where either Freeman or Durango said, "I hate that guy" if that is what you were looking for.
But it is clear from the episode that they did not like each other.
Mariner disrespected Durango as boring to his face. (It is unspoken, but I would think that Durango has to know Mariner is Freeman's daughter. The episode specifically has Freeman saying that Durango has been boring for 15 years. Which means not only that Freeman and Durango have known each other for that long, but also that Durango presumably knew at least of the existence of 6-12 year old Mariner from then or in the 15 years since then. Being dissed by random crewmember is bad enough. Being dissed by the daughter of your frenemy is worse.)
When talking about the mission, Freeman boasts, "Starfleet Command ought to start engraving my name on a plaque right now." Durango coughs in apparent umbrage, and then she goes, "Oh, and yours too, Durango, of course."
So when we shift to the Merced, it's clear that zooming in on Freeman is supposed to reflect Durango's being salty about this disrespect, and it's implied that that the recent things are just the tip of the 15-year-old iceberg.
Or he respects Mariner for speaking her mind. Which isn’t an issue for him since she isn’t under his command. Has less respect for Freeman for some unknown slight. Maybe he feels she made it to captain first based on her husband and not her ability.
People are often weird and stupid.
Hence Captain's Freeman's actions in the previous episode I guess. I just would have hoped for a tad better writing but oh wel.
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