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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x04 - "Moist Vessel"

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent job as usual, Commander!

    Votes: 15 12.4%
  • 9

    Votes: 21 17.4%
  • 8

    Votes: 40 33.1%
  • 7

    Votes: 24 19.8%
  • 6

    Votes: 9 7.4%
  • 5

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • 4

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • 3

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 1 - Pull your weight, Ensign!

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Total voters
    121
Not digging the reset button here ... :rolleyes:

Who says NuTrek has nothing in common with past Treks? :p
 
Ok that damn Koala cracked me up.

It bumped my rating up to an 8, but the yawning knocked it back down to 7.

My inner nerd objects to Mariner's behavior less because it's obnoxious than because I don't think it would be tolerated by Starfleet. :lol:

Well, it helps when "Starfleet" is your mom...

Nope, it's implied that if they're to be part of the UFP/SF, that their pheromones would be nerfed in some way.

See StarTrek Reboot movie with Kirk in bed with the female Orion cadet.

Probably after joining StarFleet / UFP and getting "Modified" so that she doesn't affect all the men

Is...is that really a thing? Jesus...

Outside of human diversity, Starfleet seems overwhelmingly dominated by our species. I'd probably address that issue more broadly, by either highlighting why Starfleet is less attractive to non-humans, or why are the crews so segregated, and if that is the case, why are the human-dominated ones still the most prominent?

I like to think that A: a lot of the background crew are members of the human looking Federation species we've seen, and B: a lot of the too large/too small/aquatic/non-humanoid species are on ships designed for them for practical reasons.

Funny how, though?

Like he's a clown? He amuses you?

What about after death?! :whistle:

Koala food?
 
The real point is that "girl" is the modern vernacular for "maiden", which is used for "young woman". In fact, the actress playing the role of Kes was in her early twenties, before her character "ascended" in 1997 (VOY, S4E2: "The Gift").
or maybe we could just stop infantilizig women
 
Is...is that really a thing? Jesus...
Imagine the affects on UFP society if Orion women were allowed to waltz around and effect all men.

The amount of damage they already did on ENT, I can understand why there has to be some "Nerfs" to certain abilities.

Whether intentional or not, it would cause utter havoc / chaos.
 
Between the experiences of the NX-01 crew in ENT and the sultry powers of Orion slave women it's no wonder that the Federation used pheromone-suppressing agents to allow Orion females to serve in Starfleet without being potentially-dangerous distractions to their fellow crewmates and officers. After nearly 230 years of knowing the Orions I'd be surprised if nobody had come up with a solution to such a problem.
 
It would seem... "odd" though to have to make the Orion females suppress some part of their own biology, something they have no control over, rather than negating the effects in some other manner; that's too much of a "blaming the victim" sort of way of thinking.(Even though in the case the Orion woman isn't a "victim" but, you should get my point.)

I would think it more likely they'd say to serve in Starfleet you have to take something yourself that prevents you from being impacted by the pheromones from Orion females whether it be just something everyone has to do, or something required of you if you're going to visit Orion or encounter an Orion female.

I mean, here on Earth if you're going to visit another country where certain diseases are more common you've got take a bunch of vaccinations, we don't tell the people of those countries "Hey, could you guys try to NOT be sick from TB or hepatitis and stuff while our guy is there?"

So if she's serving on the ship then I would think they'd tell everyone on the ship they have to take the pheromone-negating substance before telling her that her and her natural biology is just too big a problem for us so you have to do something to suppress it.

(Though at the same time, it's been shown and suggested many times to serve in Starfleet you seem to have to give up aspects of your culture for the greater whole. We see this quite a bit with Worf whenever he needs/wants to do Klingon stuff and it conflicts with Starfleet. (See: Him killing Duras, wanting leave so he can help in the Klingon Civil War.)
 
It would seem... "odd" though to have to make the Orion females suppress some part of their own biology, something they have no control over, rather than negating the effects in some other manner; that's too much of a "blaming the victim" sort of way of thinking.(Even though in the case the Orion woman isn't a "victim" but, you should get my point.)

Listen, they just consider it an improvement over what the poor Deltans had to go through. They spend ALL their time in the holodeck.

Just a random thought about Ensign Tendi: is her hyperactive, need for attention a side effect of some kind of Orion woman pheromone suppressant drug? It seems like she's always hyperactive like an ADHD child, and this last episode wanting the guy to like her seems a bit odd to me. Orion women give off pheromones that give them attention, so if that was suppressed would that make Orion women's hormones go out of whack?

While I considered that Tendi is psychologically unprepared to have anything but 90% of men and 10% of women fawning over her, it's probably funnier that Tendi is actually just really faking her incredibly sweet personality for attention.
 
So, do the writers/show runners not know what a "generation ship" is? Because... it seems odd that this "generation ship" had occupants in stasis pods and not people living and working in it over, you know, generations between locations.
 
So, do the writers/show runners not know what a "generation ship" is? Because... it seems odd that this "generation ship" had occupants in stasis pods and not people living and working in it over, you know, generations between locations.

Maybe it was a generation ship in the beginning but something went wrong with the life support system, so their only choice was to put the whole crew into hibernation.
 
Maybe it was a generation ship in the beginning but something went wrong with the life support system, so their only choice was to put the whole crew into hibernation.

Yes maybe. It would also be nice if fans didn't have to fill holes constantly with these new Trek shows.

I thought it was weirder that they didn't think to beam the crew onto the Ceritos or the Tellerite captain just moved his ship closer to the generation ship for... no reason at all?
 
It probably would have gone a long way to mitigating fan butthurt if they instead referred to it as a “colonial sleeper ship”. I didn’t really have much of a problem with such semantics because, y’know, leaps of logic and all that. :shrug:
 
It probably would have gone a long way to mitigating fan butthurt if they instead referred to it as a “colonial sleeper ship”. I didn’t really have much of a problem with such semantics because, y’know, leaps of logic and all that. :shrug:

butthurt?
 
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