Whenever they do that its viewed as bad...
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x04 - "Moist Vessel"
- Thread starter Commander Richard
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Not every show needs to have a heterosexual in it. It’s not like there’s a quota they need to follow
I wish you luck!But I want it!
I think the show should definitely include a queer character at some point. No reason not to. The four main are straight and so is Ransom and Freeman.
That leaves the Cat Lady, Security Officer, and the Chief Engineer as possible revelations.
*burn*
The best advice I ever got a writer regarding diversity was, "Why not include it?'
That leaves the Cat Lady, Security Officer, and the Chief Engineer as possible revelations.
*burn*
The best advice I ever got a writer regarding diversity was, "Why not include it?'
Mariner has been my favorite character up to this point, but I really didn't care for her in this one.
I really didn't care much for the first half of this episode at all.
I had hoped that the portrayal of Freeman as an incompetent Captain last week was an aberration, but they seem to be doubling down on it and expanding it to include captains of other California class ships.
Tendi and Boimler were also pretty obnoxious.
The sci-fi premise was pretty interesting, although the ship appeared to be a sleeper ship rather than a generational ship.
The second half of the episode was more enjoyable, it picked up a lot once the ship started transforming.
The show has the potential to be both a great comedy and great Star Trek, but right now it's neither.
I really didn't care much for the first half of this episode at all.
I had hoped that the portrayal of Freeman as an incompetent Captain last week was an aberration, but they seem to be doubling down on it and expanding it to include captains of other California class ships.
Tendi and Boimler were also pretty obnoxious.
The sci-fi premise was pretty interesting, although the ship appeared to be a sleeper ship rather than a generational ship.
The second half of the episode was more enjoyable, it picked up a lot once the ship started transforming.
The show has the potential to be both a great comedy and great Star Trek, but right now it's neither.
My inner nerd objects to Mariner's behavior less because it's obnooxious than because I don't think it would be tolerated by Starfleet.
Even with her mother and father you'd think Admiral SEN-sors could take action, her behavior was off the scale this week.
The show's biggest weakness is that it goes too far with the incompetance because, yes, it's supposed to be the worst ship in the fleet but it's FUNNIER when someone like Ransom is actually incredibly AWESOME at his job in a ridiculous situation versus incredibly BAD at it.
Mariner is funniest when she's hyper competent and not when she's a toddler.
It applies to everyone really, including Boimler.
Mariner is funniest when she's hyper competent and not when she's a toddler.
It applies to everyone really, including Boimler.
The writer needed a little tweak here where Freeman said something like:
Freeman: Sorry, the Ensign was affected by a virus that prevents her from holding back her slightest opinions.
Durango: Oh, I hate when that happens.
Ransom: *whispers* Was she?
Doctor: No.
Exactly! I wouldn’t demand those Russel T Davies shows to have heterosexuals in them.
Well that would just be ridiculous.
One thing I particularily loved this episode was the ship's computer. Even the vaguest order was fulfilled as intented.
Ransom should know, as he’s supposed to know his crew. I supposed Hes as good as Kirk when it comes to learning about their families.
Oh, come on, in 4 season of RTD's Dr. Who there were maybe two or three LGBTQ+ characters in it
Giving a character no personality is a terrible "joke", then. So far, he's completely useless and it certainly isn't in a "funny" way or in any way that can be considered deliberate.
The joke about "I like doing boring jobs" is already being handled by Boimler, and "enthusiasm" is being done by Tendi much better. So giving him the same traits already used by other characters is an incredible waste of a character.
So far, the character has no reason to exist. Almost no personality, point of view or comic engine beyond "nice guy." Awful.
I don't have to look far at all to see one of the four "main" characters. He's right in front of me and he's terrible.
Just because he was the lead in the B stories doesn't mean those were good or interesting or that the character popped in any way.
Sometimes I feel people forget how good TV shows work.
Every character has a distinct point of view and a purpose so they enhance the show, episode or even scene with their presence, even if they're not the focus.
It's because he's a cyborg isn't it?
Yes!
And, other than the press materials, there's nothing whatsoever in the show that suggests the Cerritos is the "worst ship in the fleet." It's just a regular ship, doing important, if not entirely glamorous, duties.
What this episode did right was surprise us by saying that Mariner actually DID do the reading because she is a good officer at heart and, when push came to shove, she and her mother worked well together.
What this episode did poorly was having her be SOO obnoxious in that opening scene that her mother should have literally thrown her in the brig.
Look at early seasons of "Archer." While Archer himself makes plenty of mistakes and says stupid things, he's also incredibly literate and worldly and also kicks major ass as a spy when needed. Having him be incompetent in that regard would have resulted in a far dumber show.
I wouldn’t say that was one of his shows. He was just The showrunner for the first 4 seasons.
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