Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x01 - "Second Contact"

[fireproof78]

I don't see people brushing off injuries as incompetent. A bit of a trope, stupid definitely, but not incompetent.

 

[BillJ]

I don't see people brushing off injuries as incompetent. A bit of a trope, stupid definitely, but not incompetent.

Being a Commander (and XO), he should know that he could be putting the entire crew in danger by waving it off. For me, that is incompetence.

 

[fireproof78]

Being a Commander (and XO), he should know that he could be putting the entire crew in danger by waving it off. For me, that is incompetence.

Ok...I don't agree. I just think its stupid.

 

[BillJ]

Ok...I don't agree. I just think its stupid.

The joy of disagreement!

 

[Yistaan]

Regarding "maturity" - keep in mind that the ensigns are probably in their early 20s, with Mariner most likely a bit older as she has served on multiple ships and been demoted. 20somethings can be immature, particularly if they don't have any kids of their own. And I don't even think any of them - except for Mariner - seem particularly immature, insofar as they are taking their jobs far more seriously than most people I know took their jobs at that age.

As for the bridge crew, again I'm not seeing much. The captain seems pretty straight-ahead, other than perhaps not recognizing the contributions the ensigns make (but then, what Star Trek captain has?) The first offer seems a bit broish and full of himself, but he doesn't seem incompetent. The Chief of Security is trigger-happy, but so was Worf. The Chief Medical officer is pretty explicitly modeled on Pulaski.

Mariner is definitely a weak point and a problematic character I think. It would be easier if she weren't in Starfleet the way similar characters, like Quark, weren't. The others are more or less fine.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Being a Commander (and XO), he should know that he could be putting the entire crew in danger by waving it off. For me, that is incompetence.

It's a bit of a trope. Character X brings Y on board unknowingly. Bad stuff follows. (Damn those transporter filters!)

 

[fireproof78]

It's a bit of a trope. Character X brings Y on board unknowingly. Bad stuff follows. (Damn those transporter filters!)

Speaking of incompetent those transporter filters need to be fired!

 

[BillJ]

Mariner is definitely a weak point and a problematic character I think.

Would love to put her on Discovery in place of Michael Burnham.

 

[Vger23]

It's a bit of a trope. Character X brings Y on board unknowingly. Bad stuff follows.

This man agrees with your assessment.

 

[Rhodan]

OK, I watched the Second contact... For the second time. With my dad, that is. And the same thing like with Discovery episodes. He liked it much more than I did and it even grew on me a little more. Maybe he should overtake my account. Or maybe I should be isolated from TrekBBS for two weeks after the premiere.

 

[Verteron]

Junkball (whose channel I recommend 1000%) posted his review and I agree with it so much. Nice to see one of the YouTube Trekkies react positively to something for a change.

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[Yistaan]

Ex Astris Scientia, which in general hasn't pulled punches on New Trek criticism, has a lot of guest reviews praising Lower Decks: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/episodes/low1g.htm (Bernd himself, the runner of the site, hasn't seen it yet due to lack of international distribution for the show)

 

[Nerys Myk]

This man agrees with your assessment.

They should have nuked him from orbit.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

I know at least 3 more Trekkie channels who liked it (Ketwolski, Trek Central, Jessie Gender).

 

[fireproof78]

Hopefully business does well for them with all the content being produced by Trek.

 

[137th Gebirg]

How should future humans act?

With duranium and/or tritanium rods lodged firmly within their asses. Thus, no more need for toilets (another compulsory requirement for future living)

 

[cooleddie74]

Diburnium-osmium composite. Turn in your Nerd Card.

 

[NCC-73515]

The characters are wild and eccentric, but they are experts in their fields. That's the only thing that matters for Starfleet. One person I could not imagine serving in Starfleet or even passing the Academy is Mr. Bean (imagine that XD), and we're far away from that

 

[Vger23]

They should have nuked him from orbit.

That is the answer to any problem, any time, anywhere.

 

[Sci]

Ex Astris Scientia, which in general hasn't pulled punches on New Trek criticism, has a lot of guest reviews praising Lower Decks: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/episodes/low1g.htm (Bernd himself, the runner of the site, hasn't seen it yet due to lack of international distribution for the show)

I find this fairly amusing, since the main difference between DIS & PIC on one hand and LD on the other, besides LD being a sitcom, is that LD just has a lighter tone. LD's characters are no less flawed than DIS's and PIC's, but because it has a lighter tone a lot of people aren't reacting to it by calling it "dystopian."