Star Trek: Jumper

[Temis the Vorta]

Y'know, both of Legend's joke threads raise an interesting point. Star Trek has suffered from never doing a new show with an entirely different premise.

No, Star Trek has suffered from not doing entertaining episodes. Star Trek is about people in the future, on spaceships. It's not anything else.

Then what's the difference between Star Trek and B5 and Firefly and Futurama? Is there really no difference at all between those things? Is Star Trek really just a hollow nothing, defined by shallow window dressing elements like "spaceships"?

That's Star Trek's premise (well, to be more precise: an optimistic vision of humanity's future is the premise, and prosperity & unity are important factors that bolster the premise).

I would submit to you that this premise manifested itself much differently in TOS than it did the later series.

In TOS we saw the characters striving to achieve those optimistic goals.

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Thankfully, DSN went a long way to pulling things back to the original TOS world-view that had captured my imagination in the first place.

Exactly. TOS and DS9 are the series that got the premise right. But the other series at least were created by people who understood there's more to Star Trek than "spaceships."

 

[Mysterion]

TOS[/I] and DS9 are the series that got the premise right. But the other series at least were created by people who understood there's more to Star Trek than "spaceships."

I think the folks who gave us TOS and DSN also understood that there's more to Trek than spaceships as well. Not sure what you're getting at there.

 

[SiorX]

I have a Star Trek jumper.

It's fleece-lined.


Personally, I love the idea of expanding the Trek universe to new kinds of plots and even different genres but only as tie-in novels or comics, or as one-off episodes. You sort of need to have people out in space (the 'Star' bit) and exploring the universe and discovering new things (the 'Trek' bit) for it to really be Star Trek.

I also think a certain level of optimism about the possibility for a [e]utopian future is crucial to the spirit of the franchise, but ymmv.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I have a Star Trek jumper.

Did you by any chance create that at Cafepress.com? Looks exactly like it does on their site when you can custom make shirts and jumpers.

 

[SiorX]

^ That's cause I nicked the picture of the Cafepress website. Mine was a gift from a friend, but looks enough like the one in the pic to have tempted me into lazy posting.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

TOS[/I] and DS9 are the series that got the premise right. But the other series at least were created by people who understood there's more to Star Trek than "spaceships."

I think the folks who gave us TOS and DSN also understood that there's more to Trek than spaceships as well. Not sure what you're getting at there.

Hmm. Did you read my whole post including the parts I quoted? That might help you.