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STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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C&DfD said:
The concern-trolling about the BluRays by the slow ponies who were "appalled" by how Paramount treated its fans was particularly pathetic. "Starfleet is about exploration," they whine. Exploration doesn't mean lack of conflict. Lack of drama. Lack of darkness. Exploration has historically been terrifying and dangerous. Going to the Nazi planet just isn't effective anymore. Draining all of the tension out of Starfleet by making it completely altruistic is boring. It's the PEOPLE, like Pike, that give it altruism and it's people like Marcus that give it villainy. Why this is hard to understand is a mystery to me.
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I mean honestly, did they for one second think this (ending) would be widely accepted by the trek community? … or was paying homage?

:confused: According to surveys like the one at the top of this thread, it has been widely accepted.

I think if they hadn't done that this movie would be wildy popular.

Thanks for reading and commenting on my post. I thought I was being ignored there. :bolian:
 
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It's funny, STID actually gave her something to, you know - that thing dissenters say NUTrek doesn't allow you do - think about. I'd say her thought processors are fully functional.
While I can't speak for others, I have never claimed that NuTrek doesn't ALLOW us to think. I've said it doesn't it LIKE IT when we think, because then nothing makes sense.

Shocker – I won't be buying the DVD which makes this the first Star Trek movie EVER that I won't own.

Here's my take on the DVD: The 800 Pound Gorilla
 
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^You do know that TNG used a similar "subspace transporter" for exactly one episode ("Bloodlines") and then completely forgot about it?

And that transwarp beaming was written out of Trek (in this timeline at least) in this film anyway - confiscated from Scotty by Section 31 whose R+D facility in London was then destroyed.
 
^You do know that TNG used a similar "subspace transporter" for exactly one episode ("Bloodlines") and then completely forgot about it?

And that transwarp beaming was written out of Trek (in this timeline at least) in this film anyway - confiscated from Scotty by Section 31 whose R+D facility in London was then destroyed.

And that prevents Scotty from using it on the Enterprise transporters how exactly? Or any transporter he uses, because it was just a formula he had to type in.
 
I wish I could instantly memorize long strings of computer code:sigh:
It's a formula he has been working on already, Spock only gave him the final hints he would have found out anyways in the future. He surely would remember it.

Because S31 confiscated it then made its use by anyone else illegal?
Again, how would that stop Scotty from using it on the Enterprise when he needs to. A) anyways, B) after they got rid of Admiral Marcus and it became clear that Section 31 was illegal itself.
 

I'm not trying to pick on you, neoworx...

Star Trek shouldn't be easy. Our heroes shouldn't be able to get out of situations via magic technology or magic blood or magic screenplays. They should win because they are smarter, more capable and more determined than their opponent. Trick transporters bely that.

Aren't all transporters, "trick transporters"? Working and broken whenever the story requires them to be. Isn't that part of the reason behind the Prime Directive? To keep our heroes from just being able to disappear whenever a situation becomes too dangerous for them to handle?

Transporters are miracle workers in the Prime timeline as well. Need kids restored to their adult selves? Pull out the transporter trace. Need to save your doctor from a rampant aging disease? Grab some DNA and rebuild her body from scratch using the transporter.
 
I wish I could instantly memorize long strings of computer code:sigh:
It's a formula he has been working on already, Spock only gave him the final hints he would have found out anyways in the future. He surely would remember it.
Old Spock with surely could, but Scotty would probably have to refer to countless old notes and files in order to reconstruct it - all of which I'm sure were confiscated.

I'm assuming there's a little more to it than left, right, left, right, B, A, START.
 
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