STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

[indranee]

LOL Dennis are you really asking if Cumberbatch's naked chest was on display?

 

[indranee]

BTW, anyone - do we see an unmasked Klingon, or is that something that got cut?

Reports are that we do -- they have ridges and piercings, with alleged TOS-style fumanchu mustaches.

LIKE!!!

Oh and CTarnak, thanks for the info on the score. I asked a few days ago but didn't get a response from anyone and kind of assumed it wasn't anything great. Good to know that it's excellent.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

LOL Dennis are you really asking if Cumberbatch's naked chest was on display?

Is that weird?

 

[indranee]

Not if we know you

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Well come on - I wanna see the genetic superman flex a little, you know?

Plus, it's a shame if he put in all that time in the gym and doesn't get to show off. I don't get the impression that it was a favorite hobby of his previously.

 

[Therin of Andor]

it's a shame if he put in all that time in the gym and doesn't get to show off.

You know they'd all say it was just "a plastic chest".

 

[indranee]

^Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

*hides fangirl shamwow*

 

[indranee]

Well come on - I wanna see the genetic superman flex a little, you know?

Plus, it's a shame if he put in all that time in the gym and doesn't get to show off. I don't get the impression that it was a favorite hobby of his previously.

Yeah, he's got to live up to the NAME!

And yeah, from what I've read, I think he was kinda bored. Now, of course, he's filming Sherlock so he's needed to lose the bulk.

 

[ManaByte]

My understanding from the trailers is that Cumberbatch is on the bridge until the ship comes to a stop and he jumps out of the broken viewscreen/window onto the rubble and makes his escape.

The ship crashes into the harbor, doesn't it?

Harrison watches the London bombing, not the ship crash.

No real spoilers here, since it can all be pieced together from trailers: the Dreadnought crashes into the harbor and momentum carries it well into the city. Harrison dusts himself off, hangs out the broken viewscreen and stares at the damage below. He then somehow gets out of the ship and runs like hell through various windows.

Now for the spoiler part:

Spoiler: and now for something completely different

Spock vows vengeance after Kirk's death and the obligatory "KHAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!" scream, and likely beams down to beat the living, genetically-enhanced shit out of him. The fight scene on the barges ensues. I haven't seen the movie, just surmised this from the trailers, but I hope there's a more climactic ending than this.

You have the basic idea right, but...

Spoiler: the ending

Both Spock and Uhura pursue Khan because McCoy needs his blood to save Kirk. Don't know if Spock does the Khan scream, but someone other than Kirk does...

 

[trevanian]

Alice Eve is screaming because Khan kills her dad (Peter Weller) in front of her by squeezing his head with his hands.

"I'm crushing your head...I'm crushing your head..."

Wouldn't it be, "I want more life, fucker."

 

[trevanian]

If Khanberbatch is on board the Vengeance when it crashes into Earth, then how could he survive that?

For that matter, how could Earth survive it?

Damon Lindelof can write his way out of anything. He can pull a baboon out of Eleanor Roosevelt's ass if he has to.

Each according to his gifts. When you find out what Lindelof's talent is, or even what field it is in, please advise.

 

[Art Vandelay]

You use lots of words without making a real point other than bemoaning change and claiming things for which there's no evidence. One silly unprovable assertion is worth another.

You want evidence of a decades-old, fan-beloved franchise that is relaunched, run by people who know and love it? Becoming a massive success and also really good at the same time?

Two words: Doctor Who.

You keep telling me that I am against change, and I believe I wrote that I am all for change when it is for the better. Again, I point towards Doctor Who.

I'm only against change if it means you put a franchise into the meat grinder to make blockbuster sausage.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

My magic blood cures baldness

 

[Roald]

I'm kinda worried... It's because of this remark by a reviewer on Rotten Tomatoes:

This isn’t the franchise defining ‘middle’ picture that this reviewer was hoping it to be. It’s not the Empire Strikes Back of an Abrams trilogy; and consequently it didn’t quite hit the emotional crescendo of that kind of film.

I was actually hoping STID would have been ST's equivalent of TESB... Still looking foreward to it though and it is just one review of course....

 

[topas]

hey, does anyone know what was Heather Langenkamp's character? is she recognizable in the movie?

Oh, this reminds me; As a long Assassin's Creed fan I have to ask about Nolan North. Is he recognizable and - does he get a line (curious if he gets to speak in his Desmond Miles voice)

 

[marksound]

I'm kinda worried... It's because of this remark by a reviewer on Rotten Tomatoes:

This isn’t the franchise defining ‘middle’ picture that this reviewer was hoping it to be. It’s not the Empire Strikes Back of an Abrams trilogy; and consequently it didn’t quite hit the emotional crescendo of that kind of film.

I was actually hoping STID would have been ST's equivalent of TESB... Still looking foreward to it though and it is just one review of course....

To hell with Star Wars (gasp!), what I'd really like to know is if it fits the Even Numbered Trek Movie Theory.

 

[throwback]

What caused Kirk's injuries? The reason I ask is that it seems to me rather absurd that medical science of hundreds of years from now couldn't perform tasks that we think impossible now.

 

[The Rock]

Btw, do we hear the classic Klingon movie theme being played when they show them? (The one that was first heard in TMP.)

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Doctor Who? Really?

The percentage of oldWho fans who consider the franchise to have been "Ruined Forever!" by Davies is at least as great as the percentage of trekkies who kvetch about nuTrek. Simply because you approve of one and not the other doesn't make one better or the changes more or less acceptable to long-time admirers.

The differences in scale, required resources and money between getting nuWho back on British TV and what's required to make Trek commercially viable for Paramount in America and (more importantly now) around the world mean that they won't be looking to the BBC for inspiration any time soon.

Declaring oneself to be for or against change is about as useful as coming down against or in favor of gravity - it's not like one gets a vote that matters. oldTrek ended because it failed, and it was never coming back in the form that trekkies were used to. The studio and Abrams have managed to relaunch a new version that attracts a greater audience successfully while bringing along the vast majority of folks who enjoyed the previous version. This is a good thing - period, full stop.

 

[TommyW]

Wish I hadn't read the spoilers - has put me right off seeing it I'm sick to death of lazy writers ripping off The Wrath of Khan all the time. Nemesis was bad enough. This sounds like they've taken it even further!! Spock shouting "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!"?? Kirk "dying" from radiation? Please!! Give us something different!!