Star Trek:Eugenics War

[Trekkin]

It's also a lot to expect CBS to make something with the scope of a HBO show - especially for something that most people in the audience wouldn't immediately identify as being connected to the part of the franchise that's making any money.

The BBC and HBO actually have the audience paying them to make the shows in the first place. CBS on the other hand has to cough up a product and then pray that they canrecoup their costs via advertising.

 

[uniderth]

I think the fact that so many people say this would be a good series outside of Star Trek is no reason why it can't be connected to Star Trek. Just as Gomer Pyle was a spin off of Andy Griffith, or Assignment Earth was going to be a spin off of Star Trek.

The series wouldn't have to have a "great Trek following" if it has its own legs to stand on. If the show is good people will watch it. It doesn't matter how it is connected to a franchise.

 

[Warped9]

I think the fact that so many people say this would be a good series outside of Star Trek is no reason why it can't be connected to Star Trek. Just as Gomer Pyle was a spin off of Andy Griffith, or Assignment Earth was going to be a spin off of Star Trek.

The series wouldn't have to have a "great Trek following" if it has its own legs to stand on. If the show is good people will watch it. It doesn't matter how it is connected to a franchise.

This is basically a planet bound setting since there is no humanity going interstellar in this time period. So where is the STAR TREK?

There isn't any. It's a somewhat sci-fi political type thriller maybe, but there's no STAR TREK.

The title-- STAR TREK --is a huge clue to what the stories are going to be. If you're not going to do it then call it something else.

 

[uniderth]

I think the fact that so many people say this would be a good series outside of Star Trek is no reason why it can't be connected to Star Trek. Just as Gomer Pyle was a spin off of Andy Griffith, or Assignment Earth was going to be a spin off of Star Trek.

The series wouldn't have to have a "great Trek following" if it has its own legs to stand on. If the show is good people will watch it. It doesn't matter how it is connected to a franchise.

This is basically a planet bound setting since there is no humanity going interstellar in this time period. So where is the STAR TREK?

There isn't any. It's a somewhat sci-fi political type thriller maybe, but there's no STAR TREK.

The title-- STAR TREK --is a huge clue to what the stories are going to be. If you're not going to do it then call it something else.

I must have not included that in my comment. I was going to suggest removing Star Trek from the title. That would be a logical step for a show that is not about the stars. Additionally, I like the idea of not having "Star Trek" in the title of a movie or series that takes place before the founding of the Federation.

 

[Warped9]

Presently SF on television is of the non space adventure variety with maybe one or two exceptions. If there was a time to do something of a sci-fi/political thriller type show now might be the time to do it.

 

[T'Girl]

This is basically a planet bound setting since there is no humanity going interstellar in this time period. So where is the STAR TREK?

It take place in the Star Trek created universe.

 

[Warped9]

This is basically a planet bound setting since there is no humanity going interstellar in this time period. So where is the STAR TREK?

It take place in the Star Trek created universe.

No.

 

[Jeffe525]

I have to agree with most of the previous comments. While your concept is intriguing, it would probably be better as a stand alone SF series. Think of it this way, you'll be giving up one established character (Khan), and in return you get complete freedom to do whatever you want.

However, if you insist that this MUST be an addition to Trek, then I think it would be best as an animated series, a one-off mini-series, or as one arch in some (hypothetical) Trek-Minis show that assembles short stories for the small screen (like a Star Trek version of HBO's Real Detectives).

P.S. - I do like your idea about using the Hindu calendar to retcon previous inconsistencies. It at least gets it close. Very clever.

 

[Autistoid]

I think the fact that so many people say this would be a good series outside of Star Trek is no reason why it can't be connected to Star Trek. Just as Gomer Pyle was a spin off of Andy Griffith, or Assignment Earth was going to be a spin off of Star Trek.

The series wouldn't have to have a "great Trek following" if it has its own legs to stand on. If the show is good people will watch it. It doesn't matter how it is connected to a franchise.

This is basically a planet bound setting since there is no humanity going interstellar in this time period. So where is the STAR TREK?

There isn't any. It's a somewhat sci-fi political type thriller maybe, but there's no STAR TREK.

The title-- STAR TREK --is a huge clue to what the stories are going to be. If you're not going to do it then call it something else.

I clearly mentioned exploration of mars being routine.

Aside from the ejecting khan on the botany bay, it's very much implied space will be a location where augments will thrive due to their genetic advances and independence from world powers to do their various genetic engineering experiments.

Thats of course ignoring the space race setting i mentioned.

 

[Warped9]

Interplanetary travel is not interstellar.

 

[Autistoid]

Interplanetary travel is not interstellar.

How about outside neptune, in the real world the journey to the stars will take centuries not commerical breaks.

If I sugguest a trek where going out beyond neptune trekking to the stars, does the amount of time a validation I need?

 

[Jeffe525]

Interplanetary travel is not interstellar.

How about outside neptune, in the real world the journey to the stars will take centuries not commerical breaks.

If I sugguest a trek where going out beyond neptune trekking to the stars, does the amount of time a validation I need?

I would say no. Traveling just beyond Neptune is like taking the first step in a marathon compared to going all the way to our closest star, Proxima Centauri. Plus, there are still other regions to cross before you get into true interstellar space. The Kuiper Belt, Heliosphere, etc. are several times farther away from the Sun than Neptune is.

IMO, interstellar implies at least 2 star systems.

 

[Autistoid]

Interplanetary travel is not interstellar.

How about outside neptune, in the real world the journey to the stars will take centuries not commerical breaks.

If I sugguest a trek where going out beyond neptune trekking to the stars, does the amount of time a validation I need?

I would say no. Traveling just beyond Neptune is like taking the first step in a marathon compared to going all the way to our closest star, Proxima Centauri. Plus, there are still other regions to cross before you get into true interstellar space. The Kuiper Belt, Heliosphere, etc. are several times farther away from the Sun than Neptune is.

IMO, interstellar implies at least 2 star systems.

Well I was thinking for a limit of about 0.1 to 0.25 AU out into space.

EDIT I MEANT LIGHTYEARS

 

[Warped9]

1 AU is 93 million miles or the distance between the Earth and the Sun. So 1 AU is inconsequential in terms of interstellar distances. It's not that much by interplanetary distances either.

I can see you really want this as part of the Trek continuity, but as such the only way it makes sense is if it were a fan film, fanfic or even perhaps a novel (which has already been done) or comic. Otherwise it simply doesn't have enough in the concept to be recognizably Star Trek. The Eugenics Wars would appeal to only a fraction of the wider Trek fan base.

With that in mind that's why it's been suggested you make changes and think of it as its own thing.