Star Trek: Discovery - Will Klingons have forehead ridges?
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Yes, they should have ignored the whole smooth forehead thing except as that joke from DS9. It's far more interesting than a bunch of guys with bad facial hair covered in grease paint.
Yes, that was a great book, written before TNG was around. The TOS Klingons really had some potential.
But then TNG came around and every second word out of their mouths were honor, their IQ sank and their looks got worse. They were just caricatures. I couldn't take them serious at all. With Ferengi at least we were suppose to roll our eyes at their antics. The Klingons though were obviously written unintentionally as a joke.
Unfortunately it was DS9 that screwed up the "they always had ridges" concept with the T&T line. Yes it was a joke, but they should have known Star Trek fans better.
I HATED that STUPID episode of Enterprise which offered the "solution" to the big question of ridges.
The issue had already been solved.
Kang, Koloth & Kor were members of a minority race of Klingons who are born ridgeless and gain their ridges much later in life.
That's it. That's all. That perfectly explains every single issue about the, uhm, issue.
Then they had to go and ruin everything with a senseless and unworkable explanation which doesn't even logically fit.
Roddenberry himself even said there were simply different races of Klingons. People just didn't understand what he meant at the time.
The issue had already been solved.
Kang, Koloth & Kor were members of a minority race of Klingons who are born ridgeless and gain their ridges much later in life.
That's it. That's all. That perfectly explains every single issue about the, uhm, issue.
Then they had to go and ruin everything with a senseless and unworkable explanation which doesn't even logically fit.
Roddenberry himself even said there were simply different races of Klingons. People just didn't understand what he meant at the time.
I'm being entirely honest here... I don't get why they were considered "cool" ever. They don't really do anything in the movie to garner any kind of cool factor. They get their asses utterly kicked.
Must have been from the House of Mogh.
If they never mention Klingons in this new series, it'll be too soon.
Since Enterprise botched its shot at developing the founding races of the Federation (besides the Andorians), let's do something with some of those. Maybe do an allegory of Brexit when one of the planets wants to leave the Union....ear, Fedration or something.
Since Enterprise botched its shot at developing the founding races of the Federation (besides the Andorians), let's do something with some of those. Maybe do an allegory of Brexit when one of the planets wants to leave the Union....ear, Fedration or something.
But that was during an anniversary episode that featured ridgeless klingons on screen, acknowledging that fact and making a joke was appropriate because for better or worse the on screen depiction of klingons did change and putting them side by side via archive footage mad it impossible not to comment on them.
But this was not the focus of the episode, they made a joke and moved on, Enterprise did a three episode arc explaining them.
Humor... it is a difficult concept.
I don't know, but for me, the Predator (from the Alien vs Predator series) are more Klingon then our Klingon.
I think those Klingons look awesome. Especially with the helmets and padded uniforms.What if they looked like this?
That's how they should look, not 80's hair band members with latex pies stuck on their heads.
I'm sure if the series goes on long enough, we will see Klingons at one point. I do hope that they won't ever be too much of a focus, though.
Personally I don't believe this is going to be set as early as everyone seems to think, but if it is, I assume the Klingons will show a range of different ridges/lack of ridges, similar to STIV, but with hopefully somewhat more modern designs.
Personally I don't believe this is going to be set as early as everyone seems to think, but if it is, I assume the Klingons will show a range of different ridges/lack of ridges, similar to STIV, but with hopefully somewhat more modern designs.
Two episode arc, but yeah, those episodes were pretty weak and the explanation rather unnecessary. I love Enterprise, but I really didn't need those episodes.
Klingons established in TMP. 
I would like to see Klingons wearing ridged helmets and never take them off, like the Breen on DS9. Have them as characters, but never show their foreheads for the duration of the series, as a running gag.
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