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Star Trek Discovery in trouble, and a de facto reboot?

I don't think that Star Trek writers have ever taken continuity as seriously as some fans do. Watching Star Trek, especially across different series and jumping, randomly, from one to another, I always notice inconsistencies and it's clear, to me, that writers just don't really give a damn about it.

Which is a good thing. Canon shouldn't dictate creative choices.
 
Which is a good thing. Canon shouldn't dictate creative choices.

Sure, but change something too much, then it takes us viewers out of it and begs the question why even try to link things together if they don't make sense together.
 
It was Roddenberry's intention that the Ferengi be the main heavies in TNG.

Yup. Comically inept is about the nicest thing one can say about them.

Always thought Ferengi sounded like something Dodge would name a car.
 
Some of what I hear in these "rumors" reminds me of the struggle to bring back Doctor Who after a long absence from TV. That show is about to start Season 10.

Behind the scenes of the first series was....well....a complete shambles as they struggled with costume issues (Slitheen), rights issues (Terry Nation and the Daleks) but despite all this the show came together and was a huge success. Even Michael Grade - who was BBC controller in the '80s and responsible for squashing the show out in the first place, admitted he was wrong.

Subsequently, filming on series 2 was much smoother as the team were more familiar with what to expect.

My point is, don't listen to rumors. You never know where they come from and what agenda the people spreading them may have. Until information is officially announced by the studio....it's just hear say from someone who takes pride in thinking they know more than other people.
 
You keep the broad strokes, allow the minutiae to fall away.

Fair enough, but it's kind of subjective what people consider small stuff and others consider big things. For example, I know some people are bothered when the math for warp speeds and travel time don't add up, whereas for me, that's something I find easy to gloss over.
 
Fair enough, but it's kind of subjective what people consider small stuff and others consider big things. For example, I know some people are bothered when the math for warp speeds and travel time don't add up, whereas for me, that's something I find easy to gloss over.
Big stuff: Starfleet, Federation. Warp Drive. Small stuff: Klingon makeup. Uniform design. Starship designs.
 
Even Michael Grade - who was BBC controller in the '80s and responsible for squashing the show out in the first place, admitted he was wrong.
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Michael Grade never admitted he was wrong, indeed he still stands by every decision he made in the 80s including cancelling it, or putting it on hiatus or whatever. All he said was when Doctor Who came back in 2005 that the new series exceeded his expectations. That said, he still tried to prevent the revival in the first place during a brief period in which he was temporarily placed back in charge of BBC.
 
I found it interesting that the Ferengi in TNG always seemed genuinely malicious, while in DS9 their portrayal was much more sympathetic.

Kor
 
I found it interesting that the Ferengi in TNG always seemed genuinely malicious, while in DS9 their portrayal was much more sympathetic.

Kor

Well, the Ferengi were originally intended to replace the Klingons as the main antagonists. That obviously never panned out, and DS9 revised them into a new role. However, most of the Ferengi we saw on TNG seemed to be pirates, as opposed to the more civilian ones that DS9 focused on.
 
TNG took the wrong approach to making the Ferengi villainous. If you want greed-obsessed villains, make them evil CEOs. That's some scary shit right there.
 
TNG took the wrong approach to making the Ferengi villainous. If you want greed-obsessed villains, make them evil CEOs. That's some scary shit right there.

That was actually Roddenberry's intent. They were supposed to be the equivalent of greedy capitalists in a universe of a non-market economy. Picard's speech to Offenhouse in "The Neutral Zone" about how no one does things for financial gain anymore but rather for personal enrichment encapsulates this. The problem was that the Ferengi were then portrayed as a bunch of big-eared and goofy-talking morons with laser whips, furry clothing and sharp teeth who ended up more comical than serious even in their very first appearance.

Had they been portrayed, as you say, as just human-like businessmen in suits, like the owners of WalMart, then perhaps they would have made a better impact. :)
 
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The problem was that the Ferengi were then portrayed as a bunch of big-eared and goofy-talking morons with laser whips, furry clothing and sharp teeth who ended up more comical than serious even in their very first appearance.
The whip was also rather phallic looking, especially the way it stiffened when it shot the laser beam...
 
Had they been portrayed, as you say, as just human-like businessmen, like the owners of WalMart, then perhaps they would have made a better impact. :)
Yep. They totally blew it wit their costuming, make up and acting choices.
 
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