Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x13 - "That Hope Is You, Part 2"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 6, 2021.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  1. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It would have been interesting if they used the Burn as some global warming analogy. Like, maybe once enough dilithium is being simultaneously utilized across a wide area of space, it impacts all other dilithium, which then causes some sort of subspace catastrophe which blows everything up. And it's inevitable it's going to keep happening, again and again, if warp travel recovers fully. Indeed, this is why there's not so many old civilizations banging around in the galaxy.

    But then they discover a dilithium planet anyway.

    The Federation would have to make some hard choices in response. Is it better to try and live frugally today, in hopes of a better future? Or should the Federation live high on the hog while it can for a few centuries, hoping to somehow find another method of propulsion once everyone is all linked up again?
     
  2. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's not like they can't do that any way.
     
  3. Discofan

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    Well, there's always the iconian gateways.
     
  4. NX_01

    NX_01 Ensign Red Shirt

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    And it was not necessary at all, the season would have been as good/bad without even mentioning his condition and therefore doing is THING. It's not like TNG put a timestamp on it .....
     
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  5. Lord Garth

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    The AGT future was generally accepted as 2395. The first season of Picard took place in 2399. And in the Present Day portion of "All Good Things" Crusher said that Picard had a problem in his parietal lobe.

    PIC's era intersected with AGT's, so I think they did have to have it in there. Plus it gave Starfleet more reason to doubt him if they think he's ill.
     
  6. ananta

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    1? Then how would you rate legitimately bad episodes like ‘Threshold’, ‘Code of Honor’, ‘Way to Eden’? In minuses? :shrug: I mean, I can understand not everyone will love everything but there’s not a trace of objectivity about your rant. If you’re still hate-watching this far into the series (of “Saint Michael”), then I feel sorry for your joyless burden. Life is too short, my friend. Go watch Mandalorian or something that you actually find enjoyment in.
     
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  7. daedalus5

    daedalus5 Rear Admiral Moderator

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    Like many of you, I don’t know about how I feel on this episode. The drama of potentially killing the crew, Burnham becoming captain, the terrible holodeck = sub space, the magnetic warp engines, Book using the spore drive and the ghastly turbo lift and computer core sets. However, then they go and make it bloody brilliant with the ship warping away to the original Trek theme music, and I feel so emotional, I’ll give it a 10.

    Lockdown is really draining and I love Fridays being Star Trek day, so if any of the production folks read this, keep up the good work and I’ll see you for season 4. Bravo. The possibilities are endless.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    As if fans would let that tiny detail go unremarked upon. Also, to @Lord Garth's point it allows Starfleet to be skeptical of Picard's capability as well.
     
  9. Discofan

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    What's next on the agenda?
    Strange New Worlds, Section 31, Picard?
     
  10. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Commodore Commodore

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    I remember a certain cloud vampire making trouble in TOS.
     
  11. NX_01

    NX_01 Ensign Red Shirt

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    Also there could have been medical improvements, it was the writers decission to go this path ;-)
     
  12. jackoverfull

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    More like almost completely missing in favor of empty action sequences and repetition.

    Pretty much: they could have easily condensed this 3-parter in two episodes for a better result.

    thanks, missed that.

    The potential is huge, let’s hope they harness it.
    One must appreciate the irony, at least: we’ve been discussing how crying is bad for discovery for months now, turns out is bad in universe as well!

    same way Book’s Ship did: plot-drive.

    a Klingon first officer would be a very interesting thing!


    agreed. Hopefully they’ll build on the future of the future next year, so far they haven’t domenica much with it.
     
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  13. Amasov

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    Yeah, I was hoping for something similar in that I hoped that the shortage of dilithium before the burn would've been like a depleting of fossil fuels analogy.
     
  14. Yistaan

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    If I were Starfleet's enemy, I would make kidnapping Dr. Culber a prime objective. It should be happening every other week, like Bowser kidnapping Princess Peach. However, the revelation that Stamets is no longer needed for the spore drive in light of Book and literally the entire Kwejian species probably keeps Culber safe for now.
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    They won't.
     
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  17. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Having completed it I take back my criticism of Stamets, I forgot Burnham was not his superior officer when she was 'commanding' him, they are of the same rank so he had a right to be pissed I suppose. The stank eye he gave her does not bode well for season 4 now she is captain, but she won't be the first captain he has a dispute with, he never liked Lorca lol
     
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  18. Mage

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    10 seconds of skimming this topic have made me glad I follow my own opinions and not those of the TrueTrek religion.

    "Let's fly."
     
  19. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Stamets is a LCDR. Burnham was a full CDR for season 2, then was promoted to Captain. So she's outranked Stamets for the last two seasons.

    (In the first season, Stamets outranked Burnham, because she'd had her rank taken away.)
     
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  20. Discofan

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    Too bad we're not in the Kelvin-verse where you can go from cadet to Vice-Admiral in five years... Harry Kim is turning in his grave...