No idea. I didn’t say anything about the man.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x09 - "Terra Firma, Part 1"
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No idea. I didn’t say anything about the man.
In the Terran 'verse - not sure I'm comfortable calling it the "Mirror'verse" any more - I'd expect them to be able to cut my throat by smiling widely.
I, Claudius was basically theatre recorded for TV and it was a million times better (and more subtle) than an MU ep of Discovery. Even Brian Blessed was subtle.^ And who doesn't like a good over-acted TOS scene?
Don't answer that...
With Mirror Universe episodes, I don't treat it like I'm watching TV. I treat it like I'm watching theater recorded for TV.
Including a stellar performance from Derek Jacoby and even featuring Patrick Stewart...
The MU is grand and theatrical. Give me more.
I don't attend or work on plays to see subtle. I want broad. I want memorable. I want over-the-top. I want "go broke or go home". The Crucible demands to just LET IT ALL OUT IN ALL CAPITALS ESPECIALLY AT THE END!!!!! That's what I'm looking for. That's what I want.
Subtle doesn't automatically equal good. I don't determine how good something is by how subtle it is. Subtle just means you're too afraid to go all out. You're too determined to be taken seriously for your own good. I want vibrancy. I want vitality.
I don't watch a Mirror Universe episode expecting to watch something that feels like an episode of Dragnet. And maybe that's one of the reasons why TNG never did one.
I'm curious about that as well.
Every Trek series other than TNG has done a MU episode (or in VOY's case, a MU-ish one) so I can't even imagine why TNG never did. I wonder, did they even consider it?
If you're going to go with the MU-ish moniker, TNG did do an am MU-ish episode:
TNG S3 - "Yesterday's Enterprise"
"Yesterday's Enterprise" isn't really a Mirror Universe episode in spirit. The crew isn't evil. They're just war-torn. It's more like TNG if it were a sixth season episode of DS9.Yesterday's Enterprise, anyone?
"Living Witness" (VOY) is closer to what I'd think of as an Honorary Mirror Universe Episode.
Yep.
And Voyager's: "Living Witness" honestly is not either so what's your point here stating that every other Star Trek serie did an MU-ish episode?
At this point, out of 9 Star Trek series (including the 3 streaming series) - only four of those series have done MU episodes: TOS, DS9, ENT and STD.
TAS, TNG, STP, LOWER DECKS, and SHORT TREKS have not.
Something I noticed on rewatch today.
The MU flagship is called Charon, which they pronounced Kar-on, which sounds very close to Karen. Somehow the idea that the MU’s flagship seems to be constantly called “Karen” amuses me.
The MU flagship is called Charon, which they pronounced Kar-on, which sounds very close to Karen. Somehow the idea that the MU’s flagship seems to be constantly called “Karen” amuses me.
Someone shoot me in the head. Please.
I did not ever say every other Star Trek series had a Mirror Universe episode. I said TNG in particular didn't have one. If you want to know why: it's because I think its dry, taking itself too seriously style didn't suit itself to having one. Like I implied, TNG is like the Dragnet of Star Trek. They're procedurals that focus over-heavily on procedures and were determined to play it as straight as possible.
"Frame of Mind" focuses on a stage play. And Frakes goes all out. But it's very clear it's a play. So they have an excuse built in to justify the over-the-top acting on Frakes' part.
EDITED TO ADD: I think "Living Witness" is a Spiritual Mirror Universe Episode in a way because we get to see the crew acting evil, over-the-top, and unrestrained. That's what a Mirror Universe Starfleet crew is. The framing of the story isn't, but Inaccurate History was played to have that type of feel. And I enjoyed it.
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More than any other series, TNG was the most sciencey of all, despite some New Age gobbledygook in the first couple seasons and some Treknobabble nonsense in the last couple seasons (and, yeah, that Q issue). The Mirror Universe is pure space fantasy that makes no sense at all from a scientific perspective. Yesterday's Enterprise and Parallels are probably the closest you could get to exploring a Mirror Universe type scenario within the TNG framework.
That is the more Greek pronunciation.
The Kalandan outpost's computer also used holograms to interact ( in it's case kill) with humanoids
Yep. Three-dimensional, tangible holograms that could physically interact with and disrupt the cellular structures of living creatures. Losira's hologram was more advanced than any 24th century Federation holodeck character.
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