Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x09 - "Terra Firma, Part 1"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Dec 9, 2020.

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  1. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    We can debate that endlessly without resolution but how were they able to project the illusion of a perfectly proportioned Vina if they had no idea what she looked like?
     
  2. cooleddie74

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    I said they couldn't repair one. They eventually learned to replicate how humans looked in the form of illusion but didn't have the technical skills to physically operate on a human to make them look the right way.
     
  3. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    I assume the image of Vina and the other survivors came from the real Vina's mind. It's possible that because of the pain Vina was in they couldn't accurately read her mind when she was first found. Which might tie in to Pike blocking their telepathy with violent thoughts.
     
  4. Noname Given

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    Because once she was conscious (she wasn't after the crash) - they could read her mind fully; and see her image of herself.
     
  5. Lord Garth

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    Jammer gave this episode three stars out of four. I'm pleasantly surprised.
     
  6. Tim Thomason

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    You know how if you take a car or watch apart and put it back together, there's a bunch of extra parts you don't know what to do with? Well, the hump is where the Talosians put all the extra human parts they found after the surgery.
     
  7. dupersuper

    dupersuper Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Both of these comments remind me of the Marvel Starfleet Academy comic books of the 90s. The cadets (including Nog) wind up on Talos where they meet a still young looking Pike (Really him? Who knows?), then nearly get executed for going there. I like to think this trial served as a reminder to the brass (and civilian population) that this stupid old law was still on the books and that it was revoked soon after. It's really unbelievable to me that people would be that terrified of cultural stagnation stemming from illusionary powers in the era of plentiful holodecks/holosuites.
     
  8. Noname Given

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    There's a difference between a device that people know creates false images and is used primarily for training and recreation; as opposed to a race of powerful telepaths who can anytime they wish make you believe what they project as absolutely real, to the point you can't discern where your reality was switched.

    That is incredibly dangerous because they could effectively make someone do anything The Talosians wanted. They could make him/her kill others or destroy needed equipment, all while making them believe, for example, that they're at an amusement park, or some other innocuous activity.

    The prohibition was there for a reason and it was a good reason.
     
  9. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, we can quibble over the death penalty for travel there but it wasn't something that Starfleet imposed without what it saw as very good reason. If a society like the Federation can still impose one death penalty for one of the most obscure transgressions possible then they didn't come by that punishment lightly.
     
  10. Bollie74

    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Thank you for the opinion/confirmation, like I said, I felt the same way. But I get so much SMG dislike from my partner and I have not left my house for 7 months - I just can't tell any more. I really wonder how long it is going to take to get back to leaving the house and going to work and being around other people whenever that happens in 2021...
     
  11. Discofan

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    I think Talos had the last known strain of COVID 19 remaining in the galaxy...