Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x09 - "Terra Firma, Part 1"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Dec 9, 2020.

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  1. Bollie74

    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    And I would like your bounce...
     
  2. Lord Garth

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    Oops!

    Well, in that case, nothing jumped out to me as bad about SMG's acting. It's just SMG playing Burnham in the Mirror Universe the way she does in the Prime, but coming at it from a more evil angle.

    If I wasn't thinking about it, then that's a good sign. At least from my point of view.
     
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    It’s one of those mysteries that will likely not be explained for another 20 years. My take? Change for the sake of change. Nothing more deep than that.
     
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  4. Bollie74

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    See, thinking the same thing. I bought she was way off her meds and in need of a padded room and maybe some nurturing. Not acting lessons.
     
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    On the bright side I didn't even noticed they'd changed Orion makeup until someone pointed out the small differences. That's a very good and extremely subtle alteration. I just thought they were more or less the same as ENT Orions.

    I would never have said "prosthetic" unless someone here linked to it.
     
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    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    That's the whole point of the character. Mirror burnham is a narcissistic and completely unhinged psychopath. Having known someone like that in real life i can tell you SMG did a really good job.
     
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    Terra Firma Part 1
    The ninth episode of the third season and the first half of a two-parter. Georgiou's condition is getting worse, and the Sphere Dara recommends going to a mysterious planet near the Gamma Quadrant. It is discovered that the ship in that nebula is a Kelpian ship. Upon reaching the planet and meeting a mysterious 'Carl,' Georgiou finds herself back in the Mirror Universe. More on what she experiences later. The scene with the hologram of the Time Warrior from the Kelvin Universe was good.
    Not sure what to make of the 'molecules want to go back to universe and time of origin' thing. But then the concept isn't new. It's similar to the Entropic Cascade Failure in Stargate SG1. Even there the more similar (and closer) the realities, the less likely it is to occur. But time travel wasn't mentioned. The way Saru reacted to the message from the Kelpian ship in that nebula was a nice touch. That is certainly leading somewhere. Admiral Vance's words to Saru about learning from past mistakes were also a nice touch.
    'Carl' is certainly reminiscent of Q, but he may not be a Q. (Maybe not a portal or be related to the Guardian of Forever either). The Mirror Universe twist was a surprise. Whatever that door is, it probably didn't lead to the real Mirror Universe. It's almost certainly a test which Georgiou must undergo. But that certainly what the real ISS Discovery looked like. Captain Killy certainly impressed.
    I also liked the way Mirror Burnham contrasted with her Prime self. Of course the storyline on the ISS Discovery raises questions. Is it a test being generated by Carl? Or is there more going on? It's obvious that there will be at least some answers in the next episode. Like, is there now an alternate timeline with the death of the Mirror Stamets? That is maybe the biggest indication that it may be a Carl test. And there may be something in the character interactions that may be important. Even so, a good start to a two-parter. 8.4/10.
     
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    Anyone noticed that Carl looks like a twentieth-century detective (e.g. Hercule Poirot, Jules Maigret, Joseph Rouletabille...)?
     
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    I get a “the muppets show” feel anytime they show up.
     
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  11. jackoverfull

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    Well, he is a great leader, I guess he looks up to her.
     
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    The Muppet film nobody asked for yet we won't turn away from.
     
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  13. Kevman7987

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    The overuse of prosthetics in this series does annoy me. I find it distracting from the acting and it breaks my immersion. I miss the days of "here's a rubber nose and/or forehead and some body paint and go."
     
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    And to think they didn't need that really did they? They could have CG'd green skin on Janet Kidder and then she'd not have needed prosthetics.
     
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    or W.C. Fields?
     
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    Yes, sort of.
     
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    I don't mind it now that I know what it is but at first my brain kept telling me something was very wrong with her face but I couldn't tell what and it was freaking me out a little
     
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    Yeah they definitely took a tumble down into the Uncanny Valley with that makeup. :lol:
     
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    IIRC the Orions in the first season weren't even that. They were just humans with no makeup on, and they made their skin tones green in postproduction.

    They pulled a 180 and did full silicone "masks" similar to the Klingons this season.
     
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  20. seigezunt

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    I think it's always been a challenge to pull off green makeup that doesn't look bad in some way.

     
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