Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x08 - "The Sanctuary"

[JirinPanthosa]

Evil is evil. Should it really be a numbers game?

In terms of principle and how you judge people, no. In terms of pragmatically how you act, yes. In this episode Saru said "Hey maybe we can avoid declaring war here with this clever technicality that we punished her." But she wasn't having any of that. Saru may have caused greater harm in the long run in this episode.

With Georgiu it's also a pragmatic question. We don't forgive her, but consider that her being around here may cause the least harm to the most people in the long run. She's a very skilled person whose interests are aligned with ours in desperate times, so we can justify working with her without having to forgive her.

 

[Noname Given]

I am referring to signals sent from halfway across the galaxy that they can see instantaneously.

30nd century subspace sensors. If a ship is traveling at FTL speeds that allow them to go thousands of times faster than the speed of light; they'd need sensing systems that can allow them to 'see' Data from far off areas of space.

In the 23rd century even in the time of TOS Spock had sensors that could instantly relay data from parsecs away. In a thousand years the technology should only have advanced further and the discovery did get a full retrofit with 32nd century technology.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

When you call a gender non binary person 'they' in the third person singular, do you say 'they are' or 'they is'?

Until otherwise stated, "they are," not unlike how one might say "on est" to say "we are" in French.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Until otherwise stated, "they are," not unlike how one might say "on est" to say "we are" in French.

Just feels a bit strange referring to a single person with 'Are'. But I guess 'They is' hurts your ears.

 

[fireproof78]

Just feels a bit strange referring to a single person with 'Are'. But I guess 'They is' hurts your ears.

Yeah, more grammar rules than anything else.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Just feels a bit strange referring to a single person with 'Are'. But I guess 'They is' hurts your ears.

It hurts my ears as well. I would prefer to use a different, perhaps all inclusive pronoun that does not require denoting gender (why do we need a word that tells the world what kind of genitalia we have or how we feel about it). However, "they are" has a long presence in the English language, but technically, the two uses, one singular, one plural, are actually homonyms.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

So why did "thee" and "thou" go out of fashion?

 

[Discofan]

So Adira says something like 'Ich will nicht sie sein, sondern dey'? XD

Dey? what's that?

 

[fireproof78]

So why did "thee" and "thou" go out of fashion?

Considered too formal.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

So why did "thee" and "thou" go out of fashion?

"That's nobody's business but the Turks!"

 

[Discofan]

How many does it take?

Yeah, hard to believe that only a few years before it was the same guy who was ready to beam the Native Americans off their planet without their consent... and was stopped in doing so by... one of his underlings...

Picard: "How dare you do what I did Admiral? I have the copyrights on that!!"

 

[jackoverfull]

Considered too formal.

the opposite, actually! People started using the courtesy form so much that the normal one ceased to be used.

Just asked to a friend who saw this episode in Italian. Here adira just said she doesn’t identify as a she and people should just use Adira’s name!
Makes sense, since we don’t have a neuter pronoun for people (only for things).

 

[fireproof78]

opposite, actually! People started using the courtesy form so much that the normal one ceased to be used.

Interesting.

 

[jackoverfull]

Forgot to ask in which gender she speaks, though...Which is relevant, as in Italian in many cases you coniugate verbs different if you are a he, a she, a male them or a female them!

The translator is probably poking their eyes out.

 

[CorporalClegg]

When people say language evolves, this is what they're talking about.

(As opposed to, say, an excuse to use literally and figuratively interchangeably. )

 

[cooleddie74]

Literally. I mean...right?

 

[Quinton]

So why did "thee" and "thou" go out of fashion?

Temporal Cold War agents annihilated them.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Temporal Cold War agents annihilated them.

Except on Vulcan.

 

[Quinton]

Except on Vulcan.

Except on Vulcan.

 

[Mondragon]

Did his brother Kyheem (Ache Hernandez) at one point say his real name?
I liked their dynamic, and peculiar powers.

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