She was commissioned in 2257 and made the jump in 2258. She's been an officer for a year. She was a cadet in Season One.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"
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I stand corrected on the timeline.
But, there's still the fact that everyone who could have been a candidate, has no problem with her being allowed the chance to give it a try.
It's all good, Stamets used mycelial spores to infect the brains of said crew, causing them all to cheer Tilly on to be promoted over them.
Huh?
I'm just rewatching the scene now. Their argument is basically "Say yes - we know you - we'd follow you anywhere!" That's not an argument. That's just a statement, largely based upon emotion. It seems driven by making Tilly feel good about herself, rather than actually being driven either by what's best for the ship as a whole, or even their own careers.
There's also the issue of show versus tell here. We're being told that Tilly has command potential, but we just haven't seen much of it yet. Enough to justify Lt. Junior Grade for sure, but nothing Kirk level, or even Wesley level TBH.
It kinda reminds me how in the last few seasons of Game of Thrones all of the characters talked about how "smart" Sansa was when she never actually seemed to do a single intelligent thing.
If she fucks up and loses her acting XO status all will be forgiven.
Everyone on the crew is in the same circumstances!
That's only because the writers wrote them that way dude. I mean, you can of course argue that within canon. But the reason people have an issue with this is it's an immersion-breaking decision. It means you can "see the stitches" of the show and not be fully engaged with the story.
I think it's a combination of Cabin Fever due to Covid-19 and people getting sick of certain things (no matter which side you're on) after three years. I've tried not to post too much today because getting into the thick of it all wasn't something I wanted to do on Thanksgiving.Is it me or do folks around here seem a bit more on edge with this season of "DISCOVERY"?
There seems to be a lot more discussion lately in which folks are taking posts personally and snapping back, rather than letting things slide.
Maybe it's just me noticing it more.
Spock was mentioned in both.
One of the Rios holograms mentioned that Picard once worked with "the great Spock".
Because you don't like the writers decision, isn't a valid reason why Tilly shouldn't be given a chance to try.
Executive officer is a job, not a rank.
Dude, this isn't, like, being made assistant manager at a Best Buy. This is being a heartbeat away from command. Tilly will likely have the conn often when Saru is sleeping, and will have to step in as acting captain if there's a medical emergency, Saru gets stranded somewhere on an away mission, etc. She will have the lives of the entire crew in her hands, along with a responsibility to complete the missions that Starfleet directs.
We have seen nothing that suggests she's up to this on screen. Indeed, she still gets flustered and stammers at critical moments when quick decisive action is needed.
Saru is endangering the lives of all of Discovery by making this decision. Only of course it won't happen due to needs of the plot. But someone like Tilly is simply not yet equipped emotionally to a leadership position.
Dude, look up what it means to be an XO in all branches of the military. In many cases (infrequently in the navy), it would be a job for a junior officer.
No. The valid reason is it - to any rational and objective observer - an act of overt negligence on Saru's part.
Put the shoe on the other foot.
Tilly is young and completely inexperienced and has huge interpersonal and social issues.
She has no business being in that position. When it comes to being responsible for the lives or an entire starship's crew, there absolutely is no try.
The issue of rank is not my primary concern TBH. It is a concern, but only because if the writers were thinking ahead they should have given Tilly a field promotion late in last season or something.
The primary issue is Tilly - manifestly - does not have "the right stuff." She might have it in another two seasons, but she doesn't now.
There are certainly those who should have evaluated Tilly preparedness, and in truth, the XO would probably be someone assigned from outside Discovery by Starfleet. Nonetheless, the ranks of the other officers aboard Discovery do not accord them any special privileges when it comes to determining who would become the executive officer. And as a corps of professionals, the crew would accept her rather than throw tantrums.
What kind of input immediately crashes Windows?
She was also raised by Sarek and graduated from the VSA.
Cause the timeline changed. She apparently sat around on lifeless Essof IV until *SNAP* everything was changed and there was life again cause the sphere data left the past. How would she know that anything has changed?
Is it me or do folks around here seem a bit more on edge with this season of "DISCOVERY"?
There seems to be a lot more discussion lately in which folks are taking posts personally and snapping back, rather than letting things slide.
Maybe it's just me noticing it more.
I've noticed a lot more snippy overreactions lately as well, and I myself also get more annoyed more quickly. I'm sure it's the combined stress of lockdowns, uncertain future, political insanity, and a reaction to other people's similarly increasing behaviors.
The political crisis with the burn and them leaving the Federation only happened ~100 years before.
Wait a minute, I read a fitting response here, lemme see...:
I do think Saru simply figured Tilly can't be worse than Burnham
They can simply have two openings instead of two nacelles. But it also works just fine for the guy on reddit who has 2, apparently
And it will be glorious *Gowron eyes*
I was expecting that.
Seems unlikely, since the Vulcans came to Earth and not the other way around.
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