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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

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Is it just me or the fact that Vulcan left the Federation seemed to be the tipping point for maybe the Federation is beyond repair.

Andoria, Earth, Vulcan, and Tellar were the founders of the Federation. Andoria has been confirmed to be with the Emerald Chain, although possibly not by choice (The chain might have just taken them over, but regardless it doesn't seem like Vance is trying to "save" Andoria). Vulcan and Earth outright left. What does that leave, Tellar of the founding races?

Even if interstellar travel is restored, the loss of three quarters of your founding team is a huge morale blow. Even if they say, ok, we'll come back--I mean, that mistrust will still be there. Look how much international drama came out of just the UK leaving the European Union. How is the Fed supposed to come back from the loss of all but one of their founders? How can they convince anyone to rejoin when they'll all say, "If Earth can do without the Fed, if Vulcan can do without the Fed, maybe we can too".

I wouldn't worry too much. Let's not forget that the Klingon war has been resolved in something like two minutes!!
 
In the next episode they find a cryogenically frozen Ensign Kim and assign him as direct assistant to Tilly.

I liked the episode, giving a satisfying and hopeful next step in the Romulan saga. I also liked the way the mother went after her and forced her to be vulnerable to get them to trust her.
 
To give an honest answer, I think the ships sensors just record everything. They're constantly showing stuff like the Spock scene, so obviously something is recording everything we see. Maybe that's what we're actually watching, the internal ship's sensor records of all of these events.

What I find really interesting is that with the inclusion of that scene - Leonard Nimoy himself has actually appeared as Spock in EVERY production iteration of Star Trek TV series and films to date.
(And in BOTH animated series as well with the quick TAS style animated shot on Spock and Kirk in the Lower Decks season finale.)
 
I bit the bullet and took a free month offer for All Access. This was the first Season 3 episode I've seen. I've read about or listened to spoilers about the others, but still nothing really takes the place of seeing it for yourself. I'm thinking of going back and looking at this one again, in the proper order, so my opinion might change.

But as it stands I thought it was a nice character study/drama and it was neat seeing the future of the Vulcans and Romulans. I think that this episode made better use of the Romulan priestesses than ST: Picard, the series that originated them did. I wasn't expecting Gabrielle Burnham to be one of them so that was a nice swerve. I was suspecting she had something to do with The Burn and I'm glad she appears not to have been the cause or involved.

I liked a lot of the costuming and makeup in this episode. A nice mix of Vulcanoids for the main supporting actors as well as background players.

I wasn't a fan of Tilly becoming the acting first officer. To be honest, I'm not a fan of the character period, so there's that. But come on, this was an opportunity to develop another one of the bridge officers. I am glad to see that the series is giving, or attempting, to give the side characters more personality, but they missed out on doing more with one of them. I also don't buy that they would all be happy that Tilly got promoted over them. Perhaps once I see the other six episodes that opinion might change, but right now, it's not working for me.

I also didn't like that Sybok was not mentioned. Yes, he might have been a renegade, but he was still family, and DISCO keeps missing an opportunity to use or even mention the character. Season 2, with its conflict between logic and faith, was tailor made for Sybok. As a consolation prize for ignoring him last season it would've been nice for him to get a mention. I also didn't care for the footage of Spock they used. Where and how did they get that? I understand that it's apropos to the TNG "Unification" two-parter but it didn't make sense.

Perhaps if they had had Picard recalling what Spock said to him that might have worked better. On a purely fan level it would've been nice here to see footage of Saavik perhaps recalling the words or maybe even Tuvok, for some deep Trek cuts. Fitting the unity theme, seeing a reformed Sela speaking glowingly of Spock would've been even better. Or maybe even something they could've cobbled together of Spock speaking about peace in Star Trek VI. Also, didn't care for the Vulcan president acting like Spock left the Federation permanently, or out of some disagreement with its principles. I wasn't sure if she was talking about him going rogue in "Unification" or him being lost while trying to save Romulus.
 
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Burnham when talking about the Vulcan guy says " he claims to follow the teachings of Spock but" How in gods name she know what the teachings of Spock are she only found out what he got up to 5 minutes before.

Also the voice over kinda implied that Spock was inspired by Burnham to start reunification
 
What I find really interesting is that with the inclusion of that scene - Leonard Nimoy himself has actually appeared as Spock in EVERY production iteration of Star Trek TV series and films to date.
(And in BOTH animated series as well with the quick TAS style animated shot on Spock and Kirk in the Lower Decks season finale.)

When in DS9 and Voy?
 
Burnham when talking about the Vulcan guy says " he claims to follow the teachings of Spock but" How in gods name she know what the teachings of Spock are she only found out what he got up to 5 minutes before.

Also the voice over kinda implied that Spock was inspired by Burnham to start reunification

Let's not forget that she's Spock's big sister, an influence of sorts is more than likely.
 
I don't remember seeing Nimoy in Voyager or in Picard, to be honest.
Not only is Nimoy not in Picard, Spock isn't even mentioned which is very glaring considering his importance in the Romulan supernova incident everyone in the show is talking about.
 
What you didn't know that Charles Vance was a Sigma Iotian who grew up worshiping Dr. McCoy's communicator?

Also is Book really human? :O

After 930 years, it's more than likely that every human will have some alien ancestor at one point or another. In fact, most will have multiple alien ancestors of diverse origins.
 
When in DS9 and Voy?
I said production iteration (IE Gene Roddenberry/TOS; Rick Berman TNG era - which includes DS9 and YOY <-- basically the sae overall production team/ The JJ Abrams films; and now the Alex Kurtzman era.) I didn't say every series, as he also hasn't appeared in 'Picard'; but again, - and especially with this last episode, we see the connections between all the productions overseen by Alex Kurtzman for CBSAA.
 
Not only is Nimoy not in Picard, Spock isn't even mentioned which is very glaring considering his importance in the Romulan supernova incident everyone in the show is talking about.

I think Nimoy was already dead when Picard started.
 
After 930 years, it's more than likely that every human will have some alien ancestor at one point or another. In fact, most will have multiple alien ancestors of diverse origins.
I think even the TNG period stated that crossbreeding required extensive medical oversight and manipulation to even work properly.
I think Nimoy was already dead when Picard started.
Didn't stop him from appearing on Discovery, and again Spock's mention in passing wouldn't require his presence.
 
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