Spore jump could become the travel method of choice of the thirty second century without endangering "canon" and creating outrage among the fans...
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"
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Spore jump could become the travel method of choice of the thirty second century without endangering "canon" and creating outrage among the fans...
So that brings us back to only a few Romulans survived the supernova...
I don't think asking someone if they are a "actually a fan of Star Trek" is a fair question to ask of anyone, me or anyone else. It smacks of gatekeeping.
If I'm being indignant for saying that, then so be it.
YMMV.
What this episode needed was one Reman saying "Hey, we deserve representation too! Spock wasn't that great, he totally ignored us! I want to be in this forum too---"
Ni'var guards drag the Reman away, and then everyone carries on like nothing happened.
The Reman are used to live underground, they probably survived the radiations that way... Plus they are horrible shots so I wouldn't worry too much about them being upset...
They blew the landing with Tilly - should have got promoted earlier in the season and provided more evidence of how she stepped up.
I forget how old Tilly is meant to be - but the actress is very clearly in her mid-30s and so I find her childish nature jarring when juxtaposed with how the other characters talk about her.
I forget how old Tilly is meant to be - but the actress is very clearly in her mid-30s and so I find her childish nature jarring when juxtaposed with how the other characters talk about her.
I don’t see how seeking greater understanding about where someone stands is gatekeeping. I asked the question respectfully and without antagonism or pretense, and as such I won’t take responsibility for your reaction. Again, given your posting history regarding the Kurtzman era and the statement about the Berman era’s (which represents well over 600 franchise hours) creative/production and character shortcomings...I was just wondering what it is you DO like. Perhaps my original wording was not optimal...peace.
As a fan, given your highly critical reaction to these significant elements of the franchise, what parts of it do you like?
I think they were, but we just didn’t ever see it. Remember, they technically started running into the Borg quite early, with outposts being attacked by an unknown adversary, as implied by TNG S1’s The Neutral Zone. The far side of their empire was touching the Delta Quadrant, getting probed by Borg forward observers. I suspect that’s where they were attempting to grow, as expansion past the rest of their borders was blocked by Federation and Klingon territories.
Romulans, they're so predictably treacherous...
No problem with seeking greater understanding. It's the phrasing of the question, and I wasn't seeking apology or responsibility. Just stating my opinion on how it was phrased.
I appreciate the clarification on your end, as I hope you understand my own. Also appreciate you rephrasing the question.
I actually enjoy a lot a great deal of the franchise. I'll watch any Trek and give it a chance. It's my first love franchise. Only parallel to Superman. And I have strong opinions and critics of that property as well.
As critical of Disco as I can be, I'm also critical of parts of TOS and the following films. And TOS is my jam. My first Trek love. I love the first three seasons of TNG, hit or miss for the rest of it. Love parts of DS9, dislike others. Same with VOY (Janeway is my second favorite captain after Kirk). I only like a few episodes from ENT early seasons and a majority of season 4 (T'Pol is a favorite character).
I do like Disco a great deal. I'm hyper critical of it because I see a lot of wasted opportunity with such great characters played by talented actors. Season Two was fantastic, fun and adventurous even if I don't think the overall arc holds up. Burnham is one of my favorite Trek characters. Kirk, Spock, and Uhura all in one person.
Picard, on the other hand, is just a huge disappointment for me. It didn't hold together at all for me. Except Laris. She's one cheeky feeker!
And I'm a HUGE fan of the Kelvin films. The feel like TOS writ large on the big screen for me.
TMP is my favorite Trek film, however.
Me stating my opinions on this community (and I'm among the most long-term members) is not meant to detract from anyone's enjoyment. Like the Trek you want. Enjoy the Trek you want.
Gee the lead character in the show, who has a connection the character that worked for unification between the Romulans and the Vulcans is central to a plot that involves the Romulans and Vulcans. SHOCKING!!!!!
That's pretty much what they did,
You would have hated episodic TV where we learn to love a character in less than an hour.
Why would he know? ( or care) His humanity is still up in the air.
Everyone?Wow, I really was impressed by this episode! Everything in it sounds right. The tie-in with "Picard" is nicely done, I was half expecting Michael's Mom to say "Choose to live and..."
The "Unification III" obviously refers to the two-parter of TNG... Has someone made that connection already? I can't be the only one.
I give it a ten!
Who gives a fuck? We got to see Nimoy and hear him deliver some dialog that ties in with the episode. Somethings are more important than almighty canon.
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No kidding...
I was talking about the Vulcans.
Well, considering that only ten thousand survived the destruction of Vulcan...
If I was tasked with designing self aware medical holograms, I'd write in a back door fail safe or 5 that would give me the ability to shut them down by doing something people wouldn't generally do, from a distance, safely. Something like a password, a silly rhyme, a tongue twister, or blinking really fast while pulling a particular face and using particular key words. All a person would have to know was what at least one of the fail safes was and they'd have power over every hologram. That's the sort of real life thing that would be done, and Georgiou is exactly the sort of person who would know every fail safe going.
Although, based on the trailer, maybe we've had a programmable matter replica Georgiou, Amy Ponding her way around Discovery since Glasses Guy.
Tilly as first officer is like Picard demoting Riker and putting Wesley in the chair. It makes no sense at all, and will be angrily mentioned in every single crew member's next performance review, wait and see. Fortunately, it's only acting XO, so it's sort of like a few week's work experience so that she understands the requirements and why it's important she go finish her training. But it's another in a line of questionable captaining by Saru, who's happy with dismissing the personality change in the computer as meh, probably nothing, it'll be fine. Grow a pair of ganglia, man! He took Tilly on a dangerous mission because she's nice (which she is, she's adorable and should be cherished, but she's not a security officer), he got his own chewing for not bringing the black box mission to the Admiral to look at, and not that long ago he was content to let Tyler and Culbert fight to the death just to see what happened. Not so much "make it so", more "meh, whatever".
I had forgotten earlier that Picard is now a robot, so I retract my holo tech claim. His deactivated robot body would have doubtless been left to Starfleet and is currently (32C currently) on display at the Smithsonian. In space.
Although, based on the trailer, maybe we've had a programmable matter replica Georgiou, Amy Ponding her way around Discovery since Glasses Guy.
Tilly as first officer is like Picard demoting Riker and putting Wesley in the chair. It makes no sense at all, and will be angrily mentioned in every single crew member's next performance review, wait and see. Fortunately, it's only acting XO, so it's sort of like a few week's work experience so that she understands the requirements and why it's important she go finish her training. But it's another in a line of questionable captaining by Saru, who's happy with dismissing the personality change in the computer as meh, probably nothing, it'll be fine. Grow a pair of ganglia, man! He took Tilly on a dangerous mission because she's nice (which she is, she's adorable and should be cherished, but she's not a security officer), he got his own chewing for not bringing the black box mission to the Admiral to look at, and not that long ago he was content to let Tyler and Culbert fight to the death just to see what happened. Not so much "make it so", more "meh, whatever".
I had forgotten earlier that Picard is now a robot, so I retract my holo tech claim. His deactivated robot body would have doubtless been left to Starfleet and is currently (32C currently) on display at the Smithsonian. In space.
Gee the lead character in the show, who has a connection the character the worked for unification between the Romulans and the Vulcans is central to a plot that involves the Romulans and Vulcans. SHOCKING!!!!!
That's pretty much what they did,
You would have hated episodic TV where we learn to love a character in less than an hour.
Why would he know? ( or care) His humanity is still up in the air.
Everyone?
Who gives fuck? We got to see Nimoy and hear him delivers some dialog that ties in with the episode. Somethings are more important than almighty canon.
Generally I can get by, but for some reason this episode just rubbed me wrong. Why would the Vulcans care about her and her connection to Spock? She had nothing to do with his actions later in life. When we think of famous figures, we don't think or care about their close family members. I would have found the episode more relatable if it had been Saru who had been able to get the information from them given his conversations and relationship with the president. That seemed to be a much more organic and fruitful relationship. I understand that Burnham is the main character, but there's a whole bridge crew of characters that are capable of leading an episode. Everything doesn't have to revolve around her.
Is it me or do folks around here seem a bit more on edge with this season of "DISCOVERY"?
There seems to be a lot more discussion lately in which folks are taking posts personally and snapping back, rather than letting things slide.
Maybe it's just me noticing it more.
There seems to be a lot more discussion lately in which folks are taking posts personally and snapping back, rather than letting things slide.
Maybe it's just me noticing it more.
Why not? Burnham was expecting to find her, just not on Ni'var.
Oh my god, he's the Neelix!!!!
It couldn't have been more telegraphed if it was a message from Western Union.
Organizations in Star Trek have precise recording of everything ( that oddly looks liked filmed entertainment with blocking and close ups), except when they don't.
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Is it me or do folks around here seem a bit more on edge with this season of "DISCOVERY"?
There seems to be a lot more discussion lately in which folks are taking posts personally and snapping back, rather than letting things slide.
Maybe it's just me noticing it more.
I've never trusted Star Trek fans, and I never will. I can never forgive them for the death of my joy.
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