Look, I can suspend disbelief for Trek but this is just a line too far...
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"
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Are there any fictional characters who don't talk to themselves when they're alone?
I thought the moment where the scanner said "Multiple life forms detected" and she responded "YYYYEEEESSSSSSSS!" was the second best moment of the episode behind "I saved all the things!'
I thought the moment where the scanner said "Multiple life forms detected" and she responded "YYYYEEEESSSSSSSS!" was the second best moment of the episode behind "I saved all the things!'
Those in-universe trekkies could be the goldshirt and blueshirt we see in the trailer XD
She did quote Alice to herself when she was crawling away from Ripper. I found it odd then, but at least it's consistent XD
I gave the episode an 8, but I think I should've rated it a 9 instead. "That Hope Is You" has good replay value. I liked it more each of the three times I watched.
The first time was the "I have to watch it now! I've waited 18 months!" watch. The second time was the, "I want to watch it again!" watch. The third time was the "I'm going to be more analytical now" watch.
I've yet to watch a Lower Decks episode more than once, even though I liked it. Disco was what I was really waiting for.
The first time was the "I have to watch it now! I've waited 18 months!" watch. The second time was the, "I want to watch it again!" watch. The third time was the "I'm going to be more analytical now" watch.
I've yet to watch a Lower Decks episode more than once, even though I liked it. Disco was what I was really waiting for.
No, that’s Twitter. They complain about everything.
Pretty sure it's The InternetNo, that’s Twitter. They complain about everything.
The human species.
But the first episode is called That Hope Is You (PART 1), the 2nd episode is just called Far From Home. No Part 2.
Identical Andorian prosthetics (and even the same actor, Riley Gilchrist, under one of them -- now playing his third Andorian character in DSC because the appliance was made for his face in Season 1).
stumbled across this comment from a MosBef on the world web, and was pleased to see someone who hasn't been braindrained:
"it still seems like the people working on Trek simply don’t believe in the original concept of a world that’s mostly better than our own. Whether it’s the shadowy subterfuge of Section 31, Picard’s assertion that Trek values failed in the face of the synth attack, or this season jumping forward to a time when the Federation is broken and there’s no society reflecting secular humanist values, the writers/show runners just don’t seem to trust that there can be a compelling show about mostly good people from a mostly good society confronting a troubling problem. It just seems like for whatever reason writers think that people aren’t interested in smaller stories anymore. It can’t just be about someone working through a personal problem, or town/settlement having a problem, or even a world dealing with a crisis. It has to be that society is fundamentally broken, or there’s an extinction-level event, etc. The problem with that, and it was the problem with Picard too, is that it just turns it into a hero story; it’s about how one good person or small group of people inspire or save everyone else, rather than a story about how a better philosophy creates a better, fairer, safer, more happy society. With Picard (the man) gone, the society loses its way until he comes back to fix it. Or it’s up to the crew of the Disco to inspire the rubble of future society."
Reassuring that some viewers still see thru the commercialized tedium of "the hero's journey" at its most crass and uninspired.
"it still seems like the people working on Trek simply don’t believe in the original concept of a world that’s mostly better than our own. Whether it’s the shadowy subterfuge of Section 31, Picard’s assertion that Trek values failed in the face of the synth attack, or this season jumping forward to a time when the Federation is broken and there’s no society reflecting secular humanist values, the writers/show runners just don’t seem to trust that there can be a compelling show about mostly good people from a mostly good society confronting a troubling problem. It just seems like for whatever reason writers think that people aren’t interested in smaller stories anymore. It can’t just be about someone working through a personal problem, or town/settlement having a problem, or even a world dealing with a crisis. It has to be that society is fundamentally broken, or there’s an extinction-level event, etc. The problem with that, and it was the problem with Picard too, is that it just turns it into a hero story; it’s about how one good person or small group of people inspire or save everyone else, rather than a story about how a better philosophy creates a better, fairer, safer, more happy society. With Picard (the man) gone, the society loses its way until he comes back to fix it. Or it’s up to the crew of the Disco to inspire the rubble of future society."
Reassuring that some viewers still see thru the commercialized tedium of "the hero's journey" at its most crass and uninspired.
Aaaaaaaand I'm the exact opposite. I've watched all of Lower Decks at least three times, a couple of episodes even more than that--very much in accordance with other shows I really like, such as Agents of SHIELD. I've also rewatched all of Picard twice since it premiered, although not nearly as immediately as Lower Decks, as I am not nearly as attached to PIC.
Discovery? Except for the occasional episode, it might get a rewatch a few years from now. Though, I'm much more likely to rewatch, say, DS9 more than once before then.
Oh, come off it.
Your whole post, including the quote, has the ring of "Gene's Vision" to it.
Well the Guardian liked it (although infraction for trolling for their comment that it's set in a parallel universe 
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Really enjoyed it. It was beautifully shot, intriguing and fun. I think Book is a great addition to the show. Was skeptical at first that they were going to make him a Han Solo analogue, but his back story and the plot twist about his 'cargo' sold it for me. I'm also curious about his affinity with living things. They should definitely tap more into SMG's lighter side, she actually made me chuckle a few times with Michael's line delivery.
I don't get the big deal about the action scenes involving deaths. It's not like she could have stopped the escape and asked for a ancient Federation style stun gun while they were running for their lives and having to shoot at those chasing them or be killed. "Sorry, hang on, I know we're running for our lives and I'm drugged silly, but as a Starfleet officer of a now defunct Federation, I refuse to use this new weapon tech that I just managed to grab, because it might kill those currently trying to murder me." Really? This objection seems awfully nitpicky to me.
Loved the last scene. I found it touching and inspiring. I like the idea of trying to reconnect the sectors and rebuild the Federation.
I did miss the rest of the crew, though, and I think that was by design. Obviously we're supposed to be feeling that same sense of absence and loss that Burnham was feeling.
My son was gushing over the Maine Coon and Trans-worm and he absolutely loves that Book seems to be an animal rights activist or conservationist sort.
I think it was an excellent start to the season and although it's perhaps too early to know for sure, I like the hints at where we might be headed with the Discovery plot-wise. I would like this season to be about reclaiming and rebuilding what's left of the Federation community, rather than freaking out over extinction style events.
Count me in as one of the viewers who would actually be happy if they never went back to the 23rd century. I'm ready for new landscapes and new adventures.
I don't get the big deal about the action scenes involving deaths. It's not like she could have stopped the escape and asked for a ancient Federation style stun gun while they were running for their lives and having to shoot at those chasing them or be killed. "Sorry, hang on, I know we're running for our lives and I'm drugged silly, but as a Starfleet officer of a now defunct Federation, I refuse to use this new weapon tech that I just managed to grab, because it might kill those currently trying to murder me." Really? This objection seems awfully nitpicky to me.
Loved the last scene. I found it touching and inspiring. I like the idea of trying to reconnect the sectors and rebuild the Federation.
I did miss the rest of the crew, though, and I think that was by design. Obviously we're supposed to be feeling that same sense of absence and loss that Burnham was feeling.
My son was gushing over the Maine Coon and Trans-worm and he absolutely loves that Book seems to be an animal rights activist or conservationist sort.
I think it was an excellent start to the season and although it's perhaps too early to know for sure, I like the hints at where we might be headed with the Discovery plot-wise. I would like this season to be about reclaiming and rebuilding what's left of the Federation community, rather than freaking out over extinction style events.
Count me in as one of the viewers who would actually be happy if they never went back to the 23rd century. I'm ready for new landscapes and new adventures.
Well the Guardian liked it (although infraction for trolling for their comment that it's set in a parallel universe
That IS a good review, especially considering the mainstream critics generally tend to look down on Trek in general.
Oh excellent, another thoughtful and engaging post where a frustrated detractor has to question the mental capacity of the people who disagree with them in order to stake-out what they believe is a justified position. How refreshing.
Next time, we’d like to hear less insults directed at the fan base (not the most awesome way to invite debate) and maybe more of your own original thoughts rather than a text wall quoted from some random person we don’t know or care about.
To show the creation of a better, fairer, safer, more happy society, said society needs to be worse, more unfair, unsafe, and less happy to begin with
Nah. Battlestar Galactica beats them all. Remember the extreme fan rage of the TOS traditionalists when RDM’s version came out? There were boycotts and flame wars beyond belief in those days, fracturing the fandom forever.
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