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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"

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Well, miniature black holes presumably don’t use dilithium. Of course nothing forbids them having incurred in some other issue, especially if we find out that the dilithium didn’t just explode due to natural causes.
 
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Just a couple weeks ago, I actually had a short discussion in which I specifically mentioned Betelgeusians as an example of a lesser-known alien that would be neat to see again. TBH, I wouldn't have guessed that Cosmo was a Betelgeusian, but when I compare the new version with the old, I can definitely see the similarities. His look might not be super faithful to the old design...

"The Ready Room" for Season Three's premiere has an interview with a makeupFX guy and he confirms that one of the main aliens is a Betelgeusian (ie. from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"). IMDb confirms that David Benjamin Tomlinson (who plays semi-regular, Linus the Saurian - also a TMP alien) portrays Cosmo Traitt of Betelgeuse.


Betelgeusians of 1979 and 2020
by Ian McLean, on Flickr


Betelgeusian ambassadors of TMP. One is unmasked.
by Ian McLean, on Flickr
Photo from "ST:TMP: Inside the Art and Visual Effects", Titan, 2020.

and yet, it does seem to more closely fit the description of something that could have conceivably evolved from "bird-like leopards," an idea I always had a little trouble buying when I looked at the original version.

It came from the eagles and leopards featured in the very expensive fabric (real gold and silver thread) used in the Betelgeusian Chief Ambassador's robes (third in the row above, wearing the hat). Most expensive costume ever worn by a screen extra (as of 1979), from a bolt of fabric originally purchased by Cecil B. DeMille for "The Ten Commandments".
 
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Wait till we actually learn the cause before judging. It's unlikely they just exploded for no reason, it was probably deliberately done by someone. For all we know the Q finally judged humans guilty and did it themselves. Or some extradimensional entity did it in self defense, or, or, or, who knows?

And we do have alternate sources, Book mentioned slipstream. It's just harder and rarer. But why do you assume there EXIST other ways to generate enough power for warp?

To be fair, Book said that for him to use Slipstream, he'd need Benamite crystals... which Voyager was able to synthesize on its own in the 24th century.
Its about 811 years into the future from that point... and VERY difficult to imagine that benamite crystals couldn't be whipped up on demand in a blink of an eye or that they wouldn't be widespread for Slipstream use.

Harry Kim mentioned it would take years to synthesize more (but Voyager had limited resources)... I'm guessing that since Starfleet analyzed the QS technology in detail when Voyager got back (and them having massive resources and ridiculously advanced technology), not only would they be able to find a way to create the benamite crystals in less than a decade, in about a decade after that, they'd probably figure out to synthesize the frigging things with ease and speed.

I mean seriously, sometimes I hate it how the writers ignore the fact that science and technology evolve exponentially as time goes on... so what... Starfleet has been sitting on its rear end for 700 years not making new breakthroughs?
Give me a break... In Trek, that garbage just wouldn't happen... however, the writers apparently MADE it happen that way.

As for using something else apart from dilithium to create Warp... well, dilithium crystals are used to stabilize antimatter reactions.
There's also Soliton Wave technology which doesn't need warp drive... you simply need a method to generate a soliton wave and ride it... which technically can be done with other methods (which again requires power).

Also, I'm actually surprised that Warp as technology wasn't phased out by the 32nd century...
Scratch that... I'm surprised that Dilithium crystals and anti-matter weren't phased out by that time frame - oh wait, they were... and were largely replaced by temporal technology (which was destroyed and then banned after the Temporal Wars).

How many different things did the crews of Enterprise-D and Voyager encounter that they said could be used as alternate energy sources?
I'm thinking plenty... just never revisited.
In Voyager's case, I can understand it was lack of resources... but Starfleet had that data and analyzed it thoroughly when the ship came back.
 
10 pages in... How does someone get a commission in the Federation? Not Starfleet, the Federation.
 
Well its just my observation, but people usually stop talking about star wars with me as soon as i tell them that my favourite character is jar jar :guffaw:

Do jou think at one point Alex Kurtzman said something like: Tilly is the key to all of this. We get Tilly working....cause Tilly is the funnyest character we ever had. And then some other writer in the background shouting: "Science Fuck yeah!!!"
 
o be fair, Book said that for him to use Slipstream, he'd need Benamite crystals... which Voyager was able to synthesize on its own in the 24th century.
Its about 811 years into the future from that point... and VERY difficult to imagine that benamite crystals couldn't be whipped up on demand in a blink of an eye or that they wouldn't be widespread for Slipstream use.
Stuff happens. Maybe there's a reason they can't "whip them up". We've only been in the 32nd Century for one episode.
 
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