Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"

[fireproof78]

For someone raised by Vulcans she is still the most emotional character in all of Star Trek.

Because emotional expression is OK in humans? That complete suppression of emotions can be problematic for humans, and her going through some seriously trauma impacted her ability to self-regulate. Basically, she had trauma, wasn't allowed to process it, and then was thrust back in to a situation were she was exposed to a trigger causing further dysregulation.

tl:dr-I would not expect Burnham to be able to maintain her regulation despite being raised by Vulcans.

 

[Andyliini]

I really liked the episode. Visually, it was a good as a scifi-movie, with good directing from Olatunde Osunsanmi. The only scene with bad camerawork was firefight scene, the camera was a bit wonky with lightning-quick cuts. Sonequa Martin-Green gave out a great performance with variety of motions and David Ajala was good as Booker as well. A bit more Grudge would have been more appreciated, though.

I think it was a good decisions to focus on Burnham for this episode and build the Strange New World of future. A solid 8/10 from me.

 

[XCV330]

They say that all time travel tech has been banned but who is enforcing that law? Who will stop them from using it?

Lucsly and Dulmur of course

 

[Fateor]

They say that all time travel tech has been banned but who is enforcing that law? Who will stop them from using it?

Nobody.

That whole thing is a giant gaping plot hole that only really exists because the writers want to keep Burnham trapped in their dystopian future.

 

[fireproof78]

Honestly, if they could eliminate time travel from Trek altogether I can live with that plot hole. Time travel sucks.

 

[Lord Garth]

Nobody.

That whole thing is a giant gaping plot hole that only really exists because the writers want to keep Burnham trapped in their dystopian future.

It totally doesn't make sense that they'd want to ban time travel after it led to a huge war. A huge war that even ENT Fans weren't too thrilled with. No way.

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

For someone raised by Vulcans she is still the most emotional character in all of Star Trek.

Right, and remember, it's her human heart that's the problem, to paraphrase Sarek from "The Vulcan Hello."

And she's been through a ton. Her parents are killed when she was young, she committed mutiny. Then she found out that her mother is alive, then lost her again. Reunited with her foster brother, then lost him again. Now after appearing 1000 years into the future she crashes into a ship and falls to a planet to her death.

That can take a toll on a person.

To me her emotions feel about right.

 

[fireproof78]

It totally doesn't make sense that they'd want to ban time travel after it led to huge war. A huge war that even ENT Fans weren't too thrilled with. No way.

Honestly, it strikes me as a complaint just co complain. It's like complaining that the warp scale was redone for TNG.

 

[XCV330]

There's reason to believe that Georgio does get back, or at least its a possibility. I'm not sure that the whole time travel enforcement thing won't be revisited. it might be really important, actually.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

I really enjoyed this episode. A great start into a new era of Star Trek history imo.

A 9 for me.

 

[NigellaDeanna20]

Just watched the episode folks. I like what I see. It could certainly have done without all the shaky camera stuff but other than that, I like the premise and I really like where they're going with this storyline.

 

[cultcross]

After the mutual destruction of the Time Lords and the Daleks at the end of the last great time war, it's only logical that they would rewrite navigation software to prevent them slingshotting around any suns.

 

[mr.peany]

Nobody.

That whole thing is a giant gaping plot hole that only really exists because the writers want to keep Burnham trapped in their dystopian future.

Nah, I question your logic there. From that account all treaties or rules and regulations in Star Trek are big “gaping plot holes”. For example, the use of subspace weapons banned by the Khitomer accords. Of course I’m sure people out there still use it, but for the most part I dare say that the Federation’s, or what’s left of it, moral compass means that most people still abide by the rules.

 

[Happenstance]

I’d need to watch the episode again but wasn’t too we’re we supposed to recognise the language Book spoke to talk to plants/animals? It sounded like the Discovery version of Klingon to me.

 

[DaveyNY]

Not all the dilithium exploded, since they're trying to buy some, just a majority of it it seems.

My understanding (at this point) is that only the dilithium being used in starships is what exploded (?).
So The Burn must somehow involve how Dilithium is actually used in the warp cores, that makes it explode, not that it exists materially in the Universe.

 

[Jadeb]

Nah, I question your logic there. From that account all treaties or rules and regulations in Star Trek are big “gaping plot holes”. For example, the use of subspace weapons banned by the Khitomer accords. Of course I’m sure people out there still use it, but for the most part I dare say that the Federation’s, or what’s left of it, moral compass means that most people still abide by the rules.

Treaties and rules have parties who agree to them. The show hasn't made clear who would have agreed to the ban, or who has the power to enforce it. Maybe this will be addressed in upcoming episodes, but what we've seen so far is a Wild West-type setting, where lawlessness usually thrives. So I get why people are questioning it. Even if the remnants of the Federation were down with the ban, surely a lot of others would have a very vested interest in fixing the dilithium problem.

 

[fireproof78]

I mean, I don't feel the need to question it after the first episode. If it is left unexplained then maybe that's a plot hole...maybe.

 

[Tomalak]

I thought that was great. All set-up, but really deftly done and with two excellent central performances from Martin-Green and Ajala.

A temporal war and the banning/loss of time travel tech works for me. It's consistent with Enterprise and makes sense that in this broken future, where they struggle to find dilithium or scan beyond a couple of sectors, no one would have the resources for time travel even if they wanted to.

That also answers my biggest concern with the 32nd century setting - how do you show a society a thousand years more advanced than the technology from ST: Picard? Pervious attempts were always a bit unsatisfactory - the Relativity on Voyager was just another Trek ship, except it could transport people through time. The Enterprise-J was just a big ugly ship.

So the Burn is a great solution to resetting all that. I loved the final scene too. It feels incredibly timely - when you've hit rock bottom, a little bit of hope is everything. This could be the Star Trek that 2020 needs.

 

[Fateor]

Nah, I question your logic there. From that account all treaties or rules and regulations in Star Trek are big “gaping plot holes”. For example, the use of subspace weapons banned by the Khitomer accords. Of course I’m sure people out there still use it, but for the most part I dare say that the Federation’s, or what’s left of it, moral compass means that most people still abide by the rules.

You seem to have forgotten that other races were seen using Subspace weapons all the time.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Then I think there will be a "That Hope Is You, Part II" in the fourth season.

Or maybe there really is no hope...