Star Trek Continues, Episode 4...

[doubleohfive]

I think they are just referencing the fact that they are getting a guest star known from Doctor Who.

I seriously doubt they will do any kind of crossover... especially only 4 episodes in.

But that kind of ambiguous language is a clever way to try and generate buzz and awareness.

My own instinct would be much the same; I think however the language in the announcement is not clever but rather a bit sensationalist for the sake of attracting people to the release, which is fine I guess, but somewhat irresponsible as it (casting actors from one in the other) has already been done. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Warped9]

I don't have a problem with the casting even though I've never been into Dr. Who. I do hope it's not a crossover in the conventional sense. If it is then I'll be...disappointed.

 

[Danlav05]

I think they said STC strictly acts as if they were making the show in 1969 so crossovers are out of bounds. They did ask about it on Facebook however months ago and the overwhelming response was Doctor Who.


I admit selfishly I do hope Colin Baker IS the Doctor again with Nakia Burrise as the companion and Adrienne Wilkinson as the Rani/The Master/Missy/the Meddling Monk!!


Either way it will be a pleasure to see Colin Baker & Nakia Burrise on the show!! (I was a Power Rangers kid)

 

[Bixby]

The STC Facebook page hype machine going full tilt overboard for what is basically just ok news?

GET OUT!!

 

[doubleohfive]

It's no different than what Axanar or Phase II do.

Speculation, however, need not constitute, imply, or necessarily preclude critique of same.

 

[Zaminhon]

Dr. Who or not, high profile celebrities agreeing to do a fan production is excellent marketing on its own.

 

[Bixby]

Dr. Who or not, high profile celebrities agreeing to do a fan production is excellent marketing on its own.

High profile?... Colin Baker?!?

 

[doubleohfive]

Compared to the majority of performers appearing in fan films, yeah, I'd say he's pretty high profile.

Note: that's not a dig at fan film actors. Just pointing out that Baker's a respected actor in fandom and that his appearance will likely generate plenty of crossover interest from Whovians.

 

[Zaminhon]

I honestly don't know the official definition of high profile, but I'm guessing if you're the star and your viewership exceeds a magic number in the millions, I'd assume your profile is pretty high.

 

[Bixby]

Doubleohfive, come ON!! you and I both work in the tv business, Colin Baker hasn't been relevant outside of England since the mid-80s. He's a recognizable name to genre fan audiences, but not high profile. Norman Reedus of Walking Dead is high-profile, not Colin Baker

 

[Warped9]

Compared to the majority of performers appearing in fan films, yeah, I'd say he's pretty high profile.

Note: that's not a dig at fan film actors. Just pointing out that Baker's a respected actor in fandom and that his appearance will likely generate plenty of crossover interest from Whovians.

That's how I would see it.

 

[doubleohfive]

Doubleohfive, come ON!! you and I both work in the tv business, Colin Baker hasn't been relevant outside of England since the mid-80s. He's a recognizable name to genre fan audiences, but not high profile. Norman Reedus of Walking Dead is high-profile, not Colin Baker

Who exactly do you think watches fan films?

More importantly, since when has it been necessary to be relevant to appear in a fan film? Would you have said same of Lou Ferrigno? Erin Gray? Gil Gerard? Denise Crosby?

Quentin Tarantino does this kind of thing all the time. Robert Forster anyone? Why can't fan films?

Is Baker well known in the US outside of Whovian fandom? Probably not. But in fandom, where the majority of viewership for Continues and the other fan films exist, I'd say this is a pretty good "get" for the team at Star Trek Continues.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

Doubleohfive, come ON!! you and I both work in the tv business, Colin Baker hasn't been relevant outside of England since the mid-80s. He's a recognizable name to genre fan audiences, but not high profile. Norman Reedus of Walking Dead is high-profile, not Colin Baker

Who exactly do you think watches fan films?

More importantly, since when has it been necessary to be relevant to appear in a fan film? Would you have said same of Lou Ferrigno? Erin Gray? Gil Gerard? Denise Crosby?

Quentin Tarantino does this kind of thing all the time. Robert Forster anyone? Why can't fan films?

Is Baker well known in the US outside of Whovian fandom? Probably not. But in fandom, where the majority of viewership for Continues and the other fan films exist, I'd say this is a pretty good "get" for the team at Star Trek Continues.

Absolutely. Obviously Hollywood stars (Tom Hanks notwithstanding) are not going to be in the mix here, but for the relevant audience Colin Baker is (sorry, no other way to say this) huge.

 

[Bixby]

Doubleohfive, come ON!! you and I both work in the tv business, Colin Baker hasn't been relevant outside of England since the mid-80s. He's a recognizable name to genre fan audiences, but not high profile. Norman Reedus of Walking Dead is high-profile, not Colin Baker

Who exactly do you think watches fan films?

More importantly, since when has it been necessary to be relevant to appear in a fan film? Would you have said same of Lou Ferrigno? Erin Gray? Gil Gerard? Denise Crosby?

Quentin Tarantino does this kind of thing all the time. Robert Forster anyone? Why can't fan films?

Firstly, Ferrigno still participates in the bodybuilding world and was a part of recent Marvel films so he's still somewhat relevant,But as for the others, you're right they have also been riding on their past glories for some time.

What I'm going on about is the use of ''high profile'' by Zaminhon, when, I'm sorry but Baker has not been though he may be a good actor with all of that british training. I much preferred the more dignified way STC just simply announced they had Erin Gray and Ferrigno would be in their then-forthcoming episode.

Here they are just shamelessly hyping as if they had landed Hollywood A-list actors, ''keep tuned in for our next blockbuster announcement!!''.

It's bloody ridiculous, have some dignity!

By the way, Robert Forster, though a somewhat good actor, had lost relevance a decade or so when Tarantino had rescued him, but appearing in Jackie Brown had not made him high profile afterwords either. Well, perhaps for a couple of years...

 

[GSchnitzer]

So it's not really the casting decision, it's the marketing of that casting decision. You would have announced it to STC's fan base differently.

 

[Barbreader]

I think they are just referencing the fact that they are getting a guest star known from Doctor Who.

I seriously doubt they will do any kind of crossover... especially only 4 episodes in.

But that kind of ambiguous language is a clever way to try and generate buzz and awareness.

I agree.

 

[Barbreader]

Concerning the whole discussion of Dr. Who/Star Trek crossovers, I have a few of these, none done on the Semi-Pro level, though, and some are recuts and mash-ups. (Somehow I have a sense we just did this recently)...

From Fan Film Crossovers (at Star Trek Reviewed) http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/245.html

VII Star Trek/Dr. Who
(A) Trek/Dr Who for Christmas http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/11/Doctor-Who-Meets-Star-Trek-For-Christmas-608175.html

(B) This website offers several Star Trek v. Dr. Who films: http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk/trek.html

(C) Short CGI only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1qSFl-rbjQ (0:16)

(D) Doctor Who - Trek Through Time https://vimeo.com/71223114 (27:00)

(E) Trailer: Doctor Who Meets Star Trek The Next Generation https://vimeo.com/86788095 (3:01)

The long running series, (I believe there have been over 30 episodes) Star Trek: Unity out of England features a Captain Lewis, (later, Admiral Lewis) who is also a Time Lord. However, Time Lords are identified with Iconians, to further connect them to Star Trek. Here's my page on Star Trek: Unity(England) : http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/90.html

 

[Captain Jed R.]

Concerning the whole discussion of Dr. Who/Star Trek crossovers, I have a few of these, none done on the Semi-Pro level, though, and some are recuts and mash-ups. (Somehow I have a sense we just did this recently)...

From Fan Film Crossovers (at Star Trek Reviewed) http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/245.html

VII Star Trek/Dr. Who
(A) Trek/Dr Who for Christmas http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/11/Doctor-Who-Meets-Star-Trek-For-Christmas-608175.html

(B) This website offers several Star Trek v. Dr. Who films: http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk/trek.html

(C) Short CGI only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1qSFl-rbjQ (0:16)

(D) Doctor Who - Trek Through Time https://vimeo.com/71223114 (27:00)

(E) Trailer: Doctor Who Meets Star Trek The Next Generation https://vimeo.com/86788095 (3:01)

The long running series, (I believe there have been over 30 episodes) Star Trek: Unity out of England features a Captain Lewis, (later, Admiral Lewis) who is also a Time Lord. However, Time Lords are identified with Iconians, to further connect them to Star Trek. Here's my page on Star Trek: Unity(England) : http://startrekreviewed.blogspot.com/2009/06/90.html

aye, we did - I started a thread on the concept of a Who/Trek crossover a little while back. Didn't honestly expect there to be a chance of it happening. Doct honestly expect it now - I'd be surprised if it wasn't just the STC hype machine. Still... a nerd can dream...

EDIT: Though I'll be brutally honest and say I wish it hadn't been STC.

 

[Timewalker]

Doubleohfive, come ON!! you and I both work in the tv business, Colin Baker hasn't been relevant outside of England since the mid-80s. He's a recognizable name to genre fan audiences, but not high profile. Norman Reedus of Walking Dead is high-profile, not Colin Baker

Who is Norman Reedus? I've heard of Walking Dead but have only the vaguest idea that it has something to do with zombies...?

In other words, one person's well-known, high-profile actor may differ from another person's.

 

[Bixby]

Doubleohfive, come ON!! you and I both work in the tv business, Colin Baker hasn't been relevant outside of England since the mid-80s. He's a recognizable name to genre fan audiences, but not high profile. Norman Reedus of Walking Dead is high-profile, not Colin Baker

Who is Norman Reedus? I've heard of Walking Dead but have only the vaguest idea that it has something to do with zombies...?

In other words, one person's well-known, high-profile actor may differ from another person's.

Here is the very definition of ''high-profile'':

''a position of attracting much attention or publicity''

and YES, Norman Reedus by vertue of being a lead castmember on Cable's highest-rated show (14 million viewers last week alone), being followed on Facebook by thousands of female fans, AND being in a favorable position to being a BANKABLE movie star, fits the very definition of a high-profile Hollywood actor.

I am in no way denigrating Colin Baker's acting talents. But let's be honest, Reedus has thousands of fans (sure, mostly women at this point) that are ready to plunk down 10 or 20$ to see him in a movie.

Are YOU ready to put money down to see Colin Baker in a film right now?