Yep, Kurtzman is such a big failure that there will soon be 7 different Star Trek shows all airing with his name on them.
Spoilers Star Trek biggest problem is Alex Kurtzman
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Sorry, but are you really sure about this? Alex Kurtzman may be mediocre as a writer (which doesn't necessarily mean anything, since Rick Berman was a mediocre writer), but what you have written doesn't really give me sense that you do appreciate those earlier series. All of them have had a few real stinkers.
I think Star Trek's biggest problem are fans who just won't accept that the franchise has moved on from its 90s era way of storytelling and who stubbornly insist on getting the same kind of stuff over and over again and who will hate on anything and anyone who doesn't make the franchise cater to THEIR needs.
Too harsh?
Too harsh?
My problem with TNG was that TOS had amazing actual Sci-Fi writers while TNG (With a few exceptions) were a stable of TV writers. Also TNG laboring under the edict of "Don't do motifs or make memorable music"*
Obviously TNG worked it out.
*Ironically TNG would create the most memorable post TOS music. Something I have yet to see duplicated in FIVE series after,
Obviously TNG worked it out.
*Ironically TNG would create the most memorable post TOS music. Something I have yet to see duplicated in FIVE series after,
People imagining they know how the process works I should think.
I know I'm ignorant of much of it, but I know that an Executive Producer is essentially in charge of the business side of things.
Trek's biggest 'problem'...is the format. A serialized short season with a mystery box and little episodic nature.
If you don't like the mystery, then the next episode is very unlikely to turn the ship around. Where with TNG et al...you could have a "Yesterday's Enterprise" come out of nowhere and blow you away.
If you don't like the mystery, then the next episode is very unlikely to turn the ship around. Where with TNG et al...you could have a "Yesterday's Enterprise" come out of nowhere and blow you away.
It's perhaps better to say that the executive producer has an eye on the business side, but still makes creative contributions. For all that we dump on Berman, he made a few critical decisions that were positive, not to mention that he helped to develop the pilot stories for several series.
I think it varies from individual to individual. Some EPs seem to be more hands on with the creative material, others focus on the hiring, firing, financing, budgeting, etc.
The latter is the core of the job, I think, the former more of an extra curricular thing.
I disagree. Making Star Trek like everything else won't do it any favors.
DS9 (and Enterprise to a lesser extent) had the best mix of arcs and stand alone episodes. I know they had more episodes but that gave them time to explore a character for an episode with the main arc going on in the background. They had many different arcs for different characters happening at the same time and wove them all together.
I think Trek is late to the game of serialization.
Then it will die and we can go on arguing about the same 700 episodes ad nauseum. We've already seen what happens when the franchise tries to do the same thing over and over.
B&B need to go, they're ruining the franchise.
Wait, what year is it again?
Wait, what year is it again?
TNG would have died if they made it in the style of TOS. TV production and story telling had changed from the days of Matt Dylon and all the rest of the guy that comes into town and fixes shit. Today's Trek has to do the same. No one is going to watch a 90s show. Things have moved on.
I'm strangely ok with this. It's silly to expect Star Trek to go on forever.
Stop watching, you won't be plagued with it anymore. It's far easier and more successful that wishing folks would stop liking things you don't like.
as I said Picard is kurtzman's vision.
no, its dumb start trek down and made trek generic stuff . also why make that move when others have shown you can do intellectual more compelling sci fi stories and still be very successful?
for worth is worth, I can't wait for Noah hawley's star trek movie, hopefully it does well and he can become the head runner of trek TV.
I wish I could fail as spectacularly as him.
No, it's Michael Chabon's vision.
I'm learning to let go. Would you rather Trek die a dignified death of have them trot out the corpse every few years and whip it some more?
My advice? Instead of writing long diatribes about how you hate new Star Trek (in two TrekBBS sections, no less), just don’t watch the show. I don’t like ENT but I don’t feel the need to post long-winded crap in that section as to why I hate it, since I know that all that will do is make the people there who actually like the show angry at me. And why would I feel the need to do that?
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