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Star Trek and Cannon... darned confusing!

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IIRC it was the Sherlock Holmes series where "Canon" was first applied as meaning the official stories in a work of fiction. And there are continuity issues in that series.

And with regards to Holmes, I believe that "Canon" was just a way to distinguish the original stories by Doyle as opposed to all the later pastiches, adaptations, etc. It wasn't a value judgment, or even a guarantee that all the Doyle stories were 100% consistent with each other; it was just a way to distinguish the original set of stories from the later stuff.
 
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I'll just rock your world and inform you that Webster is part of canon. Have fun.
 
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Star Trek continuity has been changed a few times so there is no actual order! ENT had the Future Guy interfere with established history and disrupt the timeline so maybe TOS doesn't happen like we know it did or ENT like DSC is set in another universe?
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It's like I've said before. Star Trek was never ever meant to be an ongoing, 50+ year story. The fact that it holds together half as good as it does is absolutely amazing.

The illusion of continuity was artificially magnified when you had overlapping series being aired in the 90s and written, designed and produced by all the same people.

That's just not the reality though. And it's okay. Because it's not a unified, ongoing saga and was never meant to be.
 
Exactly. There's the illusion that Trek is a unified whole versus the reality that it's actually seven different TV series and thirteen movies created by diverse hands over the course of fifty-plus years. So, yeah, there's some sleight of hand involved to make it look like it all fits together. :)
 
Star Trek continuity has been changed a few times so there is no actual order! ENT had the Future Guy interfere with established history and disrupt the timeline so maybe TOS doesn't happen like we know it did or ENT like DSC is set in another universe?
JB

Has it been established that DSC is another universe?

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And with regards to Holmes, I believe that "Canon" was just a way to distinguish the original stories by Doyle as opposed to all the later pastiches, adaptations, etc. It wasn't a value judgment, or even a guarantee that all the Doyle stories were 100% consistent with each other; it was just a way to distinguish the original set of stories from the later stuff.
Holmes does have the advantage that the canon is supposedly Watson's accounts of the cases, and aside from errors, he states sometimes that he has disguised names, dates, etc as the price of recounting a case.
TOS has that implied by the captain's log, and the TMP novelisation's mention of an inaccurate but fun dramatized account. In Who, it's possible that what we saw were edited Matrix recordings, or the Doctor's recollections (as per Wheel in Space leading into the Evil of the Daleks repeat).
 
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