Star Trek and Cannon... darned confusing!

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by A'Tun-Te, Dec 29, 2018.

  1. Terok Nor

    Terok Nor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    That's how I felt at the end of Discovery Season One.
     
  2. Delta Vega

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    Here's a novel idea
    Why not just restrict canon to Star Trek (TOS)
    Canon should begin at "The Cage" and end at "Turnabout Intruder"
    Everything else after is just dressing, and the more you add, the more complicated it gets.
    Every other series has the right to quote canon in their own time period, or even universe
    But Prime Canon should begin and end with James T Kirk and crew
    Sits back and awaits flak. . . . .
     
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  3. Vger23

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    And yet here you are, on a daily basis, reliving the experience.

    I think Mikey likes it.

    ;)
     
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  4. at Quark's

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    Nah... a true Star Trek fan will accept only "The Cage" and captain Pike as canon, nothing of that "reimagined" stuff with glamourboy Kirk and such.
     
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  5. Terok Nor

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    This isn't the Discovery forum though...
     
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  6. Tuskin38

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    For someone who hates Discovery you sure love talking about it!

    Why do you care so much?

    Just move on.
     
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  7. Terok Nor

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    The thread is about Canon. How can you discuss Canon without talking about the elephant in the room?
     
  8. Tuskin38

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    No one has brought up TOS though
     
  9. Terok Nor

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    Nice one:bolian:
     
  10. Greg Cox

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    I'm willing to end it before "Turnabout Intruder." :)
     
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    That's a shame, I was hoping for Lenore Karidian to make a return and redeem herself ;)
     
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  12. Daddy Todd

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    I believe that's a transcription error, and it was actually the NCC-57-D. The novelization calls it the Timewinds, so U.S.S. Timewinds it is.
     
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  13. Henoch

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    Out of curiosity, I googled every permutation of this "novelization" and got nothing. Me thinks I'm being practiced upon. :mad:
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Pretty much my take, and I even preclude TMP as well.
     
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  15. Henoch

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    TOS canon should begin and end with TOS, but not the "Cage", rather, its manifestation in the "Menagerie".
     
  16. Delta Vega

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    Yeah, I can reach that
     
  17. Greg Cox

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    From a post on this very board, ten years ago:


    "In the Forbidden Planet novelization, the C-57-D is called the Timewinds.

    "Canon rules may be different in the Forbidden Planet universe, so perhaps we could consider that a canonical name -- one that never came up in the film.;)"

    One would have to consult the actual novelization by Philip MacDonald to verify this for sure, but apparently this is not a new claim. Don't think you're being pranked.
     
  18. Henoch

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    Thanks for info. The C-57D was a cool ship.
     
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  19. LJones41

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    That's how I felt reading shit like this.
     
  20. Greg Cox

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    Mind you, I've never actually read the novelization. But a google search on "Forbidden Planet Timewinds" turned up an old Trekbbs thread from 2009!

    Now I'm tempted to read the novelization someday.
     
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