Star Trek and Cannon... darned confusing!

[Terok Nor]

I'd rather saw my testicles off with a jagged rusty tin can top soaked in hot sauce. Slowly.

That's how I felt at the end of Discovery Season One.

 

[Delta Vega]

Here's a novel idea
Why not just restrict canon to Star Trek (TOS)
Canon should begin at "The Cage" and end at "Turnabout Intruder"
Everything else after is just dressing, and the more you add, the more complicated it gets.
Every other series has the right to quote canon in their own time period, or even universe
But Prime Canon should begin and end with James T Kirk and crew
Sits back and awaits flak. . . . .

 

[Vger23]

That's how I felt at the end of Discovery Season One.

And yet here you are, on a daily basis, reliving the experience.

I think Mikey likes it.

 

[at Quark's]

Here's a novel idea
Why not just restrict canon to Star Trek (TOS)
Canon should begin at "The Cage" and end at "Turnabout Intruder"
Everything else after is just dressing, and the more you add, the more complicated it gets.
Every other series has the right to quote canon in their own time period, or even universe
But Prime Canon should begin and end with James T Kirk and crew
Sits back and awaits flak. . . . .

Nah... a true Star Trek fan will accept only "The Cage" and captain Pike as canon, nothing of that "reimagined" stuff with glamourboy Kirk and such.

 

[Terok Nor]

And yet here you are, on a daily basis, reliving the experience.

I think Mikey likes it.

This isn't the Discovery forum though...

 

[Tuskin38]

I thought we were supposed to accept anything we haven't seen on screen before as having existed all along. Therefore Buffy The Vampire Slayer actually happened in the Star Trek universe. That's right. Vampires, demons and werewolves are now in Star Trek because I said so. It doesn't matter that we've gone 50 years without a hint of them. They're just as Canon as Spore drive, pre TOS cloaking devices and Spock's sister because Discovery I said so.

For someone who hates Discovery you sure love talking about it!

Why do you care so much?

Just move on.

 

[Terok Nor]

For someone who hates Discovery you sure love talking about it!

Why do you care so much?

Just move on.

The thread is about Canon. How can you discuss Canon without talking about the elephant in the room?

 

[Tuskin38]

The thread is about Canon. How can you discuss Canon without talking about the elephant in the room?

No one has brought up TOS though

 

[Terok Nor]

No one has brought up TOS though

Nice one

 

[Greg Cox]

Canon should begin at "The Cage" and end at "Turnabout Intruder"
.

I'm willing to end it before "Turnabout Intruder."

 

[Spot261]

I'm willing to end it before "Turnabout Intruder."

That's a shame, I was hoping for Lenore Karidian to make a return and redeem herself

 

[Daddy Todd]

C-57D

I believe that's a transcription error, and it was actually the NCC-57-D. The novelization calls it the Timewinds, so U.S.S. Timewinds it is.

 

[Henoch]

I believe that's a transcription error, and it was actually the NCC-57-D. The novelization calls it the Timewinds, so U.S.S. Timewinds it is.

Out of curiosity, I googled every permutation of this "novelization" and got nothing. Me thinks I'm being practiced upon.

 

[fireproof78]

Here's a novel idea
Why not just restrict canon to Star Trek (TOS)
Canon should begin at "The Cage" and end at "Turnabout Intruder"
Everything else after is just dressing, and the more you add, the more complicated it gets.
Every other series has the right to quote canon in their own time period, or even universe
But Prime Canon should begin and end with James T Kirk and crew
Sits back and awaits flak. . . . .

Pretty much my take, and I even preclude TMP as well.

 

[Henoch]

Here's a novel idea
Why not just restrict canon to Star Trek (TOS)
Canon should begin at "The Cage" and end at "Turnabout Intruder"
Everything else after is just dressing, and the more you add, the more complicated it gets.
Every other series has the right to quote canon in their own time period, or even universe
But Prime Canon should begin and end with James T Kirk and crew
Sits back and awaits flak. . . . .

TOS canon should begin and end with TOS, but not the "Cage", rather, its manifestation in the "Menagerie".

 

[Delta Vega]

TOS canon should begin and end with TOS, but not the "Cage", rather, its manifestation in the "Menagerie".

Yeah, I can reach that

 

[Greg Cox]

Out of curiosity, I googled every permutation of this "novelization" and got nothing. Me thinks I'm being practiced upon.

From a post on this very board, ten years ago:


"In the Forbidden Planet novelization, the C-57-D is called the Timewinds.

"Canon rules may be different in the Forbidden Planet universe, so perhaps we could consider that a canonical name -- one that never came up in the film."

One would have to consult the actual novelization by Philip MacDonald to verify this for sure, but apparently this is not a new claim. Don't think you're being pranked.

 

[Henoch]

Thanks for info. The C-57D was a cool ship.

 

[LJones41]

That's how I felt at the end of Discovery Season One.

That's how I felt reading shit like this.

 

[Greg Cox]

Thanks for info. The C-57D was a cool ship.

Mind you, I've never actually read the novelization. But a google search on "Forbidden Planet Timewinds" turned up an old Trekbbs thread from 2009!

Now I'm tempted to read the novelization someday.