Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by King Daniel Beyond, Nov 19, 2019.
Late to the chat but so excited!
That was the point. To emphasize the ship's vulnerability when the Swarm cut it apart, and then to show that the new version had been improved so it would be stronger against an attack like that.
Lorca (up until the reveal) reminded me a lot of Calhoun.
Same thing with Solo.
Trekkie since TNG. I've thoroughly enjoyed the Kelvin timeline material, which offers fascinating new insights into established characters. Don't play the gatekeeping game.
Star Trek Beyond was probably my third favourite Trek movie, behind Khan and FC.
I dunno how you could ever think it was "anti-Trek".
It's up there for me too. Along with the other two kelvin films.
I think you're the first person I've come across who hated the Kelvin movies but liked Discovery, which is essentially a series in the JJ Abrams Trek movie style and run by one of the ST'09/Into Darkness writers/producers. Weird.
Every iteration of trek has it's complainers. Berman trek was great but it ran it's course, audiences tastes and expectations change. I think trek has done a decent job transitioning to current trends with the kelvin films and discovery.
Sure the kelvin films could have been more successful but that's more down to the management of the franchise than the quality of the product.
I am really looking forward to the Picard show. As much as I love Kirk I fucking ADORE jean-luc. Please don't let us down!
It's a good time to be a trek fan at moment, with the potential of a fourth kelvin film and the Tarantino project too.
I just want more trek. I miss it when it's not around.
I thought Berman Trek was awful, DS9 only got good when he left it alone and Voyager is the only Trek show I have never re-watched, even Enterprise picks up in the later seasons, even if it was still pretty bad I can respect that the writers at least tried.
Its a forum of opinions though, so who cares.
Point is, I will never not watch a trek series or film. I will always watch it regardless.
While I've been mostly unimpressed by Discovery, I couldn't imagine not watching it. It is incredible that Trek is an ongoing concern forty-two years after I started watching.
Exactly. I've enjoyed discovery in the main. I do think it could have been better though. The FX in series one were shit, and the jury is still out on the characters for me. I like saru and tilly, and a couple of others but I don't feel as invested as I should be yet.
I suspect Picard is going to scratch my itch more.
Did it ever get to the script stage?
I believe so. Locations were scouted, parts were cast. They were a month or two from filming when the plug was pulled.
Like with Beyond absorbing the cost of Orci's aborted 3rd movie (which was written, locations scouted and concept art made), the costs of the SJ Clarkson Trek 4 will be paid for by the budget of this one. If it gets made.
Same here, which is why I'd be kind of relieved if there were no more Kelvinverse movies. I even own the Trek like these and Voyager that I'm less than fond of, although they're probably still in the shrink wrap.
I don't know that they had a finished shooting script, but there had to be enough of one for Hemsworth to read and be unimpressed with.
Good call by Hemsworth.
Berman Era just got lazy, and the writting suffered, hell they completly recycled scrpts for Enterprise from Voyager..
Basically, by the end, it showed that Berman didn't care.. and it showed in the product, and people left. If Voyager and Enterprise were better written, Enterprise wouldn't have ended at season 4.
Yet he did Men in Black: International...
That recycling started earlier with a script intended for DS9 being used in VOY. And, as much as I would like to believe that ENT would have been able to continue the viewership numbers were not great, and on a decline starting with DS9 and VOY.
Maybe he just wanted to have fun, a bit of a break from the MCU.
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