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Star Trek 3

The film may be in a lot of ways lackluster, but (I finally got the CE DVD) I fing that the drama still plays out well. Sure I know the budget was limited, it was ALL soundstages, the battles were too brief, but it still held me more now than Spider-Man 3 could have ever hoped and that was $250 million dollars!
 
I really like this one. It might be one of my top three, too. This movie is very blue in color, isn't it? TWOK is really red (not just the nebula battle, but the whole color scheme), and this one is really blue. I guess these aren't legitimate cinema terms, but it's just what I think of when I think of these two movies.
 
You can talk meaningfully about the colors of a movie. Maybe nobody did ``color theory'' better than Walt Disney but certainly animators have known for nearly a century now that you can control the tone of a scene just by how the color palette is laid out. (And sometimes it's just got to be deliberate; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow goes through the whole rainbow over its progression, and I can't believe that was unintentional.)

I don't know if there was a conscious choice to make The Search For Spock more blue in color than The Wrath of Khan was, but the result is there. The color does pretty well fit; it is a surprisingly morose movie, after all.
 
Funny, I've always characterized these two movies as Red and Blue myself. Just some sort of funny "mind catalog" that I've always stuck to. Guess I've never had to think twice about it until you mentioned it. :lol:
 
Oso Blanco said:
but the first couple of times I saw TSFS I too thought that the Officer arresting Bones was Admiral Morrow. I don't think it has anything to do with skin color, rather than the mustache.

I actually thought he was trying to pick up McCoy. Their faces are a wee bit too close to each other.

But I knew it wasn't Hooks. MUCH too young.

--Ted
 
Interesting considering I also thought of both movies in terms of Red and Blue. Hmmmmm....
 
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock is just too "by-the-numbers" for me (Eventhough important events take place during the course of it, like TNG with Star Trek: Generations) that I rank it at #6 below the other 5 TOS films. But, it's still miles better in terms of care and consistency than the 4 TNG films, that's for sure. :borg:
 
if your girlfriend ever leaves to run errands, put in the DVD of ST3, I have a 56" TV with 6.1 surround a sub that is just great, anyhow it doesnt matter what you have just turn it up and watch the scene between the enterprise bridge and klingon bridge when the enterprise first arrives to genesis, when both sides are trying to assertain the situation. the music is great and it caps off wonderfully when scotty hits the BoP. It ends nicely when Kruge returns fire. Good sound effects and music, thats a scene to show off your new system to.
 
shatastrophic said:
Good sound effects and music, thats a scene to show off your new system to.

May be, but try watching it with the sound OFF. You'll doze off, the scene is shot and edited in a totally pedestrian manner. Compare that with the 'sneak attack' sequence in TWOK -- which is also scored by Horner -- and you'll see how it should have been done, with some imagination and a few insert shots and some moving camera. The TWOK scene works fine even without the sound, but Nimoy's 'battle scene' is just dull dull dull, requiring the overhyped Horner music just to function.

Nimoy's direction in quiet scenes, like Kirk and McCoy in Spock's quarters, is good, but man, there are so many scenes that are mangled in his pictures. David's death is one of the crummiest bits ever, as written, but Nimoy managed to make it even worse (I think SFS is horribly written in just about every way, so it ain't all Nimoy's fault, but he was the director of record.)
 
I need to break out my old movie reviews from 1984. I saved every Trek review for 2, 3 & 4. All of the Trek 3 reviews in my area called TSFS a superior picture to TWOK (and of course raved about TVH).

Sadly, the same local paper and reviewer also talked about the "odd numbered movies curse" some years later, thereby relegating TSFS to the discount bin.
 
trevanian said:
shatastrophic said:
Good sound effects and music, thats a scene to show off your new system to.

May be, but try watching it with the sound OFF. You'll doze off, the scene is shot and edited in a totally pedestrian manner. Compare that with the 'sneak attack' sequence in TWOK -- which is also scored by Horner -- and you'll see how it should have been done, with some imagination and a few insert shots and some moving camera. The TWOK scene works fine even without the sound, but Nimoy's 'battle scene' is just dull dull dull, requiring the overhyped Horner music just to function.

Nimoy's direction in quiet scenes, like Kirk and McCoy in Spock's quarters, is good, but man, there are so many scenes that are mangled in his pictures. David's death is one of the crummiest bits ever, as written, but Nimoy managed to make it even worse (I think SFS is horribly written in just about every way, so it ain't all Nimoy's fault, but he was the director of record.)
Interesting, i've never watched a movie with the sound off. Not to knock people who need close captioning, but i don't. I agree that TWOK initial attack was superior, and it's music and sound effects are wonderful. I love the music when Khan is looking for the overide when Spock took down Reliant's shields. But then again we should be talkin' about #3 not # 2.
 
3 is one of my favorite ST movies.

I always watch 2, 3 and 4 back-to-back.

What *I* want to see (and always imagine) is something (a book, ANYTHING) between 5 and 6... it's hard for me to believe that Kirk got the Enterprise and only got to take it out once before his retirement!
 
I like how in Star Trek II Kirk is telling Savvik that Klingon's don't take prisoners, and then in III we see them do just that.
 
Well, to be fair, Kruge took the prisoners in hope of achieving a goal. In the normal course of combat, they may not take prisoners.

Sir Rhosis
 
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