We’ll have to disagree. I believe Spock gave her the whole green Vulcan roll. He just had no open physical feelings for her.
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We’ll have to disagree. I believe Spock gave her the whole green Vulcan roll. He just had no open physical feelings for her.
Totally disagree: from what I gather it’s wasn't much unlike Spock’s relationship with Chapel, as much as she would have liked it there was no way Spock would go much further than being colleagues.
This might just be my favourite Star Trek movie (also my first!). It isn't without its issues but I love it so much that it's among my favourite movies of all time!
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It was a breath of fresh air for the franchise in 2009. Spectacular, funny with a very neat premise to keep it tied to what came before whilst giving it the freedom to do it's own thing. I think it's a flawed but fantastic movie.
It still annoys me to this day how they dropped the ball afterwards though (though I like STID and STB every bit as much).
What a wasted opportunity.
Note to Cryo: That's a TAS referenceKirk's a jerk...
They took out "On May 8th" but kept the black screen and blue line XD
This one (trailer 3) even got an award, IIRC
Disco looks very Kelvinized
Calm down, it's not worth it.
How old are you, roughly?
Most of it makes sense, the rest is no less sensical than the other movies XD
I ended up seeing it 9 times in theaters - different languages, and different people wanted to go see it over months and months IIRC
Galaxy parts are on the Utopia Planitia ground facilities in TNG
What languages out of curiosity?
I’m aware of those. It is more about author intent, in this case.
Yeah; I agree with all your other points (especially the mess of science and plot), but I was fine with this.
Alternate timeline: we don't know about T'Pring (I'm trying to remember if they address it in the comics). Also, the human ancestor line always struck me as just pilot episode awkwardness. It's certainly public knowledge by Corbomite Maneuver (clearly the next episode chronologically), and a mother is technically an ancestor.
Same here, and the novel Inception certainly agrees with us.
This version of Spock is debating how Vulcan he wants to be. Prime Spock is all in, Movie Spock is more nuanced.
Or it's possible, just possible, Spock and T'Prynn don't see their engagement as binding until marriage.
Uhura and Spock may see their relationship only lasting through the Academy due to the same reasons people in RL date in college with the knowledge they will move away later.
Or it's possible, just possible, Spock and T'Prynn don't see their engagement as binding until marriage.
Uhura and Spock may see their relationship only lasting through the Academy due to the same reasons people in RL date in college with the knowledge they will move away later.
Spock having a romance seems out of character for someone whose reason as a character is as suppressor-of-emotion and outsider/commenter on the human condition. The point is to represent the Apollonian, even though, brilliantly in TOS and the movies, he struggled with it and ultimately rejected its strict adherence. (What a great character arc, as he developed from shouty to cold to integrated.)
But even in ST V and VI when he's out back together, he's still primarily the logic/reason character.
To have him acting like a college kid with his girlfriend: meh.
Also, Uhura was mainly elevated . . . to be Spock's girlfriend. Then dropped in Beyond. She was almost a full person in STID dealing with the Klingons for a moment iirc.
Many things about the movie (back to 09) smacked of immaturity on the part of the filmmakers. Have Kirk listen to Beastie Boys! Show Spock and Uhura making out! Kirk is an immature jerk! He does green women! Kewl.
Now, are all these things possuble/plausible? Yup. But in the totality, I got the sense of someone who keep throwing things in just for the sake of being provocative, which is at heart, immaturity. Nero addressing Pike informally as "Christopher"! That was the moment in the theater that took me out.
Is it plausible/possible? Sure. It just seemed like a filmmaker pointing to himself by inverting a Trek trope (formality) and being cool by doing the informality which is the order of our day.
Oddly, JJ made very, very (too) orthodox SW films. Imho, of course.
But even in ST V and VI when he's out back together, he's still primarily the logic/reason character.
To have him acting like a college kid with his girlfriend: meh.
Also, Uhura was mainly elevated . . . to be Spock's girlfriend. Then dropped in Beyond. She was almost a full person in STID dealing with the Klingons for a moment iirc.
Many things about the movie (back to 09) smacked of immaturity on the part of the filmmakers. Have Kirk listen to Beastie Boys! Show Spock and Uhura making out! Kirk is an immature jerk! He does green women! Kewl.
Now, are all these things possuble/plausible? Yup. But in the totality, I got the sense of someone who keep throwing things in just for the sake of being provocative, which is at heart, immaturity. Nero addressing Pike informally as "Christopher"! That was the moment in the theater that took me out.
Is it plausible/possible? Sure. It just seemed like a filmmaker pointing to himself by inverting a Trek trope (formality) and being cool by doing the informality which is the order of our day.
Oddly, JJ made very, very (too) orthodox SW films. Imho, of course.
Agreed with everything, but I liked that detail of Nero: it showed he was not your regular Romulan admiral, only some angry ignorant idiot that thinks too much of himself, can’t come up with half a plan and only makes things worse for everyone.
That was the idea, right? Right?!
Heck he probably just had himself tattooed without knowing what it meant and his forehead read “hot chili” in ferengi.
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Well he literally is just a space trucker. That was actually deliberate. After years of crafty Romulans and generals, he's just an angry Redneck.
It's why I hated trying to say his ship was Borg technology or he was the head of the Mining Guild.
Yeah, countdown was good fun but a lot of it didn’t make much sense either.
That was my impression and why Nero is among my favorite villains. He isn't a super genius, or an advanced AI but a regular guy, someone who has suffered intense pain and witness tragedy and loss on a scale that few of the characters he encounters will understand. And, it goes to the theme of emotions running deep in the Vulcan and Romulan race, and just how destructive that can be.
I also wanted to share a video that usually gets a lot of play (either for or against the film) in CinemaSins. I chuckle a bit during their reviews, but also find some of their interpretations lacking. Curious for thoughts and if anyone else use to watch them.
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