Star Trek 13 question

[DrBashir]

Based on the Star Trek ongoing comic the NuUniverse is pretty much the same as the Prime Universe with a couple of minor changes (no Vulcan, Amanda, etc). It's what the Prime Universe looks like if you squint as opposed to something new and different.

And you've made that judgement on: precisely one issue of IDW's new comic series. I don't expect these tie-in comics to show too many differences because JJ's team doesn't want to spoil too much for their upcoming movie(s).

Actually no. I'm making it based on exactly one (1) movie. I haven't read or even seen the actual comic except for a picture of the cover and a brief synopsis telling how they're retelling old stories with the new cast. I assume that gary Mitchell, Elizabeth Dehnner, the marker buoy from teh Valiant and the energy barrier make apperances but other than that I don't know what they're doing in the comic.

I'm basing my comment on the writers explanation for how everyone came together regardless of all the coincidences as being the universe trying to make things as they were. I'm assuming that they don't intend to stay too far from the classic Trek mold.

You're free to take the comic as gospel as much as you like.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Actually no. I'm making it based on exactly one (1) movie.

Hence my clarification, because you specifically said "Based on the Star Trek ongoing comic..."

I'm assuming that they don't intend to stay too far from the classic Trek mold.

No planet Vulcan, no Amanda, and Uhura in a relationship with Spock: hardly "what the Prime Universe looks like if you squint".

 

[DrBashir]

How often did we visit Vulcan or see Amanda? Been there, done that. They MAY get a mention in the next movie but I hardly thing either of those will be a major plot point.

I only mentioned the comic because a)it`s one of the few follow up`s we`re getting and b) Orci is involved in it as opposed to the YA books. When the follow up is a retelling of a previous story you figure that things aren`t going to stray too far. It`s a new universe. Tell us new stories.

 

[F. King Daniel]

So the first movie made big changes but you've already decided the second one won't? Based on ONE issue of a comic book.... which you haven't even read?

Good luck with that.

 

[DrBashir]

What big changes? If Vulcan had been destroyed in the same year in the prime universe we would have had a modified version of Amok Time, probably taking place on a colony planet.

With Amanda dead, Journey to Babel would have been a much different episode but the major beats of the story could be the same. Uhura could even fulfill some of the Amanda role, suitably modified of course.

For TOS, that's pretty much it. Two episodes slightly altered. The rest of the series could have gone pretty much as as scripted.

The changes between TOS and the movie are much, much less than the differences between the original and remake versions of Battlestar Galactica.

Orci has even said that the universe is trying to repair itself. It hardly sounds like they're planning on straying too far from the TOS playbook.

 

[Therin of Andor]

How often did we visit Vulcan or see Amanda? Been there, done that. They MAY get a mention in the next movie but I hardly thing either of those will be a major plot point.

One of our major players has lost his home planet, and lost an anchor in his life (his mother; in the Prime Universe, Spock had fallen out with his father). I expect that lots of things that may happen to Spock over the next two movies will/may be coloured by the major timeline changes we witnessed in the first film.

It`s a new universe. Tell us new stories.

The current tie-in comic series is not allowed to do that, at least until JJ's team have firmed up their plans for the next movie. Pocket Books have four finished novel manuscripts waiting in a pile, which will hopefully see a release at some point, even if they'll require tweaking.

Patience!

 

[DrBashir]

If the sequel isn't a direct followup to this one storywise than we may get just a scene or two that touches on the events of the first movie, if that. They could set it 2 or 3 years afterward and simply say "How's the new Vulcan homeworld coming along Spock?" "Very well according to the report's I've been recieving from my father and...others" "Good to hear." "Captain, we've arrived at the Twinkie Nebula"

Nothing says that it simply MUST be followed up or that Spock must be rending his garments in grief.

How much of TVH was a followup to TSFS? A few minutes at the beginning and a few at the end. With minor changes the whole movie could have been a standalone.

 

[JarodRussell]

Young Spock must have been pretty disappointed. He actually wanted to help rebuild the Vulcan race. Now he's limited to Uhura.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What big changes? If Vulcan had been destroyed in the same year in the prime universe...

Yeah, but...you know, it wasn't.

Blowing up Vulcan is a pretty big change. You can't name a bigger one. Killing a main character? Say hello to my little friend Resurrected Spock. He loves Italian, and so do you.

 

[DrBashir]

How big a deal did the blowing up of Alderaan make? It was to show that the bad guys are really, really bad. Other than Journey to Babel & Amok Time TOS would have pretty much played out the same as it did. Vulcan's not that big a part of the show.

 

[Trekkie2]

Young Spock must have been pretty disappointed. He actually wanted to help rebuild the Vulcan race. Now he's limited to Uhura.

Not really. All he has to do is take a magazine to the bathroom and.......

 

[UFO]

As far as changes go, it seems to me the appearance of the Narada and Nero really stirred up Starfleet. The different appear and size of the Enterprise is significant, but more so is the delay in building it.

To me that indicates a pretty big reorganisation in Starfleet building and staffing schedules. Indeed a change of emphasis in policy overall. A number of missions that occurred in the Prime universe probably didn't happen or happened differently with different people with some new ones as well.

No, the changes to the Enterprise couldn't just be isolated effects. Most of Starfleet's ships are like to be different in some way. At least those built over the last 25 years. Others may have been refitted etc.

Such significant changes would have effected the rest of the Federation in some way too I would suggest.

 

[Greg Cox]

How big a deal did the blowing up of Alderaan make? It was to show that the bad guys are really, really bad. Other than Journey to Babel & Amok Time TOS would have pretty much played out the same as it did. Vulcan's not that big a part of the show.

Except, perhaps, as it affects New Spock's character development.

 

[Transk53]

Young Spock must have been pretty disappointed. He actually wanted to help rebuild the Vulcan race. Now he's limited to Uhura.

Yeah, some limit alright.

 

[shapeshifter]

ARGH!

Please, for the love of all pure things, no more Trek alumni cameos!!

 

[number6]

Unless it's Porthos.

 

[Broccoli]

Unless it's Porthos.

Agreed.

But ONLY if played by Breezy!