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ST Picard - Starships and Technology Season One SPOILER Discusssion

Mark_Nguyen

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At long last, here we go! This thread can centralize all the ships, tech, and little inane details about the worldbuilding coolness that is Trek, for the first season of Star Trek - Picard.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS!
 
First in with an inane detail: they built an all-new Stargazer model for Picard's archives, and it lacks the five secondary phasers on the dorsal side, but has fully visible torp launchers at both pylon junctions.

Timo Saloniemi
 
My quickie observation from the first viewing of "Rememberance".

- Yes it's a dream, but Data and Picard can't be in Ten-Forward by the placement of the windows, unless Ten Forward has been one room to port of the ship's centerline all this time. In any case, from the outside there was only one "room" lit, where Ten-Forward had three times that many windows. And no, the window sizes don't match.

- Was Ten-Forward a CG set? I'm willing to be much of it is; aside from the table and chairs there was little else that needed to be interacted with.

- Yes it's a dream, but the Enterprise-D was NEVER that dusty. Picard dreams in 4K, it seems.

- A farmer on Reddit has pointed out that there's no way in hell that those hover irrigators are spraying insecticides, as the field workers wouldn't be anywhere near them outside, unless 24th century insecticides are engineered not to affect humanoids anymore. That said, if it IS just water, it's a LOT of it given that at least five separate machines are seen close together in the one field.

- Whatever Kasidy Yates is up to these days, is big enough to warrant a flashy billboard in Boston!

- I don't think we've seen a MALE Xahean before, so maybe whatever he's got going on top of his head is a natural thing. Or a choice, like Po's facial coloring that he doesn't have? Aliens are weird.

- While it's more a plot point, the attackers' speaking English or Romulan has always been indistinguishable from the POV of the person listening, so why make the distinction now? Or are we saying that universal translators aren't embedded in the walls?

- Chateau Picard looks completely different than it did before. We DON'T know if Robert and Rene died in a fire in the chateau specifically, but it's a convenient excuse to wipe away the old house AND the forest it was nestled in, replacing it with another one of completely different architecture and style. ;)

- That said, THIS Chateau has some of the more modern conveniences, like a fridge, TV and such. Robert had an aversion to this stuff (as did their parents), so it seems a Jean-Luc thing to do upon rebuilding the place. And it's still retro enough that the light switches and other appliances are like the ones we use...

- The replicator effect is more "3D printer" like Discovery (but not exactly Discovery) and less a simple cross-fade effect. Still, it DOES happen on an open chamber as more expected and not behind a door. The replicator has TNG-style LCARS... Surplus unit, perhaps?

- I'm okay with visual news being a thing again - no one's watching television entertainment, so that's probably still a passe thing in this era, but unlike the other TNG era shows, the news is just ON all the time here; I see this as an accurate reflection on today's media being everywhere.

- That said, NO ONE LIKES WATCHING TV THROUGH A SEMI-TRANSPARENT SCREEN. NO. ONE.

- Has the Federation News Network replaced the Federation News Service that Jake was writing for?

To be continued... So much to comment on!

Mark
 
- Yes it's a dream, but Data and Picard can't be in Ten-Forward by the placement of the windows, unless Ten Forward has been one room to port of the ship's centerline all this time. In any case, from the outside there was only one "room" lit, where Ten-Forward had three times that many windows. And no, the window sizes don't match.

To have just those three windows lit, the "section of the facility" would need to be separated from Guinan's watering hole by a solid wall. Which is probably fine and well. Sure, her 10-Fwd segment had doors at both ends, but there's probably both space and demand for separate cabinets at those ends, across corridors.

That said, it's really weird they didn't make the windows to match.

- A farmer on Reddit has pointed out that there's no way in hell that those hover irrigators are spraying insecticides, as the field workers wouldn't be anywhere near them outside, unless 24th century insecticides are engineered not to affect humanoids anymore. That said, if it IS just water, it's a LOT of it given that at least five separate machines are seen close together in the one field.

Do we later see machine pickers as well? Smaller machines, with horizontal cylinder bodies, when Picard "wakes up" to the second Data dream. Or are those polishing the grapes one by one or whatever?

Timo Saloniemi
 
I loved Picard's replicator, which looked very much like the ones on the Enterprise-D.
 
On one of the certificates, there is a drawing of the USS Leondegrance (NCC-2176). It is a new ship type. There is, as well, a service award for PIcard's time on the USS Reliant, a 24th century ship mentioned in the extended cut of "The Measure of a Man".

We see the warp-capable ferries briefly in the news video and there are three new Romulan designs - a transport ship, a workbee, and something else, a structure that looks eerily like a cross.
 
On one of the certificates, there is a drawing of the USS Leondegrance (NCC-2176). It is a new ship type. There is, as well, a service award for PIcard's time on the USS Reliant, a 24th century ship mentioned in the extended cut of "The Measure of a Man".

While those awards were shown before the show premiered, I did not see them in the actual episode. I only saw models of the Enterprise-D, the Stargazer, the Enterprise-E yacht, and miscellaneous stuff like the Captain Picard Day mural and some of Data’s paintings.

We see the warp-capable ferries briefly in the news video and there are three new Romulan designs - a transport ship, a workbee, and something else, a structure that looks eerily like a cross.

You mean:

What was underneath the appropriated Borg cube?
 
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Some of the fancy pieces of glass appear in the background all right: when Picard walks in the vault, away from the camera with the Yacht to the left and Stargazer to the right, the small freefloating (?) shelves to his right (with the Captain Picard Day banner above) feature this stuff.

I gather the crosslike spacecraft are sentry buoys surrounding the Cube and shooting down those who transmit outdated security codes and aren't strong in the Force.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Some of the fancy pieces of glass appear in the background all right: when Picard walks in the vault, away from the camera with the Yacht to the left and Stargazer to the right, the small freefloating (?) shelves to his right (with the Captain Picard Day banner above) feature this stuff.

I gather the crosslike spacecraft are sentry buoys surrounding the Cube and shooting down those who transmit outdated security codes and aren't strong in the Force.

Timo Saloniemi
Those sentry buoys are weapons platforms that were in the Star Trek Armada games.
 
The Enterprise-D CGI Model looks somehow...wrong to me. It´s lit far to dark, you can barely see the hull itself. And don´t you think that the main deflectors shape is off?
 
I've heard a couple of folks here state that there's something wrong with the shape of the E-D. But how could that be? It's not as if there would exist a mechanism by which the Makers could get it wrong. The dimensions of the thing are known - the CGI artist isn't drawing freeform art after watching a TNG episode.

OTOH, 10-Fwd windows could well be wrong.

Art Ist: "I did this "Enterprise-D" thing like you asked, from the blueprints you gave, in the plenty of time you allotted because you aren't stupid and knew roughly how long it takes to build this thing you always knew you needed for your new series. You know, I later even had time to read up on what an "Enterprise-D" is supposed to be. There's all sort of nifty detail and..."
Sho Wrunner: "Great. Now we have finished the script, and we need a scene at 10-Fwd, but it needs to be intimate, with only three windows lit."
Art: "But the ship doesn't have those!"
Sho: "Too bad. And we need it two days from now."
Art: "Ah. Showbiz. Okay, I'll shove them in, but it won't be pretty."
Sho: "No matter. It's only a dream anyway."

Timo Saloniemi
 
...Ah, we have a transcript at springfieldspringfieldco.uk. So a couple of details I missed:

- The E-D is now defined as the Starfleet Flagship, not the Federation one. By a reporter, though.
- Mars had planetary defense shields, in addition to the killer sats we later see in the trailer. I wonder how good those shields are - dropping them appeared crucial both here and in Worf's Khitomer backstory, but those are the only 24th century mentions of the tech. Even in the Dominion War, only isolated installations were shielded, or bases built underground.
- The exact dialogue on how to make synths defines Data as an "advanced" android, and states that "redeveloping the science used to create Data" has not been possible. Yet Bashir builds positronic prosthetics, so the limitation probably only means that those building positronics have failed to create another Data (or even another B-4). I wonder what happened to patients who had positronics in their heads when the Synth Ban descended upon the UFP... Were there pogroms, too?

Timo Saloniemi
 
...I wonder if this could have been a place Picard actually frequented, for private time with the likes of Data or Guinan. (I mean, he probably needed to secretly practice before daring to sit down at the top officers' poker table, and doing it with Data and Guinan would seem appealing. The dream might be closer to reality than first appears. :p )

I wonder which of Picard's Enterprises the reporter meant with that "Starfleet Flagship" thing. Could be the E-E was of that sort, even if never called that elsewhere, while the E-D was the Federation Flagship from start to finish. More probably, though, she'd just mention the famous ship while ignoring the mundane one...

Timo Saloniemi
 
[QUOTE="Timo, post: 13234630, member: 2 I wonder what happened to patients who had positronics in their heads when the Synth Ban descended upon the UFP... Were there pogroms, too?

Timo Saloniemi[/QUOTE]

As I understood it androids where banned not the positronics technology branch itself
 
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