Spoilers ST Lower Decks - Starships and Technology Season Two Discussion

[Markonian]

Hoping we get a scaling chart soonish...

Also, wanting a registry number for the VS Sh'vhal.

Is the VS prefix official? I prefer my ships fully prefixed.

 

[Alpha C]

Yes, the Sh'vhal looked huge compared to the Cerritos and the BoP, but we know that relative ship sizes on screen aren't always very informative. Ships meant to be heroic or otherwise imposing have often been depicted way bigger than they were designed to be, for dramatic purposes. So I took a quick stab at determining its actual size - there seems to be something akin to a bridge module at the top and near the front:

https://i.imgur.com/0qkzVaJ.png

There are some lights on there which might be windows - if so, that section is two decks high. Assuming 10 ft per deck, I arrive at something on the order of 1725 ft/525m overall length, which is much more reasonable to me.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

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[Kamen Rider Blade]

Be still my beating heart. Shame it has taken a cartoon to give it some love as it deserves.

It's my favorite Vulcan StarShip design so far.

 

[publiusr]

Mine too.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Ahem… I dunno where it was, but does anyone have a screencap of that Excelsior..?!

mark

 

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[publiusr]

Nice find

 

[HappyMcWonderful]

Has anyone worked up a diagram of the California-Class warp-core?

 

[NCC-73515]

Ahem… I dunno where it was, but does anyone have a screencap of that Excelsior..?!

mark

 

[NCC-73515]

it has sovereign nacelles

https://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/lds-210-preview-06.jpg

 

[matthunter]

Is there any structural/other advantage to those interlocking teeth on the Spacedock doors? Why not just flush edges?

 

[Dukhat]

I'm confused. A Twitter post said that the ship is a new class. This article says that it's an Excelsior class. So is it a new class, an old Excelsior class with refitted parts, or a brand-new Excelsior class with a different design from the 2286-2293 version?

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

it has sovereign nacelles

https://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/lds-210-preview-06.jpg

Am I the only one who sees the Red Bussard Collector colors almost blend in with the Red Impulse Exhaust Colors on the neck?

 

[Tomalak]

I'm confused. A Twitter post said that the ship is a new class. This article says that it's an Excelsior class. So is it a new class, an old Excelsior class with refitted parts, or a brand-new Excelsior class with a different design from the 2286-2293 version?

I suspect it's a new take on a classic design. Think the updated Mini or VW Beetle for example.

All will be revealed in a matter of days!

 

[Tuskin38]

Obena-Class according to Mike. Inspired by the Excelsior, but bigger.
https://twitter.com/MikeMcMahanTM/status/1448034907897274373

 

[DEWLine]

As for the source of the name?
https://twitter.com/Exiled_Timelord/status/1448036897306120205

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

The Excelsior is still in service as of 2381. The original's first appearance was in 2285. While I'm guessing there are none of the original 2280s frames still in frontline service, it'd be neat to be wrong!

And the Odena class has already shown up, subbing in for the Excelsior in the title graphic for one of the 2x08 simulations.

Mark

 

[Dukhat]

The Excelsior is still in service as of 2381. The original's first appearance was in 2285. While I'm guessing there are none of the original 2280s frames still in frontline service, it'd be neat to be wrong!

I would suspect that the U.S.S. Repulse NCC-2544 was one of those original 2280's frames (especially since it was the NX-2000 configuration.) The Hood NCC-2541 was probably one as well, but then they went all 42296 on its ass.

 

[Timo]

That the Hood would have had the 23rd century, four-digit registry "for real" is an assumption we can easily skip, since no episode supports it. With the Repulse, we can squint a bit and easily accept 2544, and it would indeed be fun to think of her as an original - perhaps this is why Riker never got to enjoy proper modern holodecks aboard that previous ship of his?

Would Starfleet build a "third batch", only now with Sovereign style nacelles? A bit odd to reproduce antiquated hull curves that way, a case more severe than the Akira vaguely resembling Archer's ship. Or would Starfleet modernize a couple of those 42000-rangers and (justly) call the radical refit a whole new class? I doubt the Archimedes will have that low a registry... But who knows, in a show where registries are up to übernerdfans like us, but where some Californias dip down to the 12000 range in apparent deliberation.

Timo Saloniemi