Spoilers ST Lower Decks - Starships and Technology Season Two Discussion
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Are the ensigns doing archeology on an ancient satellite? It makes sounds like an astromech, so it might be from a galaxy far, far away?
The safeties apparently are working, but the pods must include some kind of nerve induction for pleasure and pain?
Bradward seems to experience assimilation but without actual physical trauma? Rutherford FEELS burnt, and it looks, maybe smells burnt until the program ends?
Holo-clothes are fascinating! Mariner adjusts what must be a replicated cowboy hat. Her Mirror-verse heels must similarly be replicated, so maybe she was hoisted into them at a low tractor factor? Rutherford may similarly have lost his socks until the end of the program?
Was it only Shaxs and T'ana slumming it in the mess hall before now? Maybe they're too old to taste the lower quantum resolution on the lower class meals?
The solar satellite belongs to civilians or UPF allies?
Yep, that's the Birdseye right there. Definitely not an "Aquiel"-type relay station, as that indeed doesn't have the solar panels and has a number of other modifications as well. But perhaps they stumbled upon another cryosat (and they weren't repairing it but rather investigating)? We know for a fact the Birdseye can't have been a "simple" orbital satellite, otherwise it wouldn't have been encountered in deep space. I don't think it's unreasonable more of them might have existed. And we knew from the Botany Bay that 1990s Earth had sublight interstellar capability anyway.
And if not exactly the cryosat, I have no problem with Starfleet using solar panels for low-power applications, even if microfusion seems to be a thing. If it's the sensible choice for the job at hand, then why not.
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A new Vulcan Ship design, looks very similar to ST:ENT styles of ships though.
But I guess Vulcan's stick to their Ring based Coleopteric Warp Drives, even in the 24th century and their copper hull coloring.
It's pretty much iconic at this point.
Why do the Vulcans need two Shield Bars?
The Vulcans don't waste time / resource / GUI real estate for redundant & pointless info.
The only reason they would have two Shield Bars is because they would have Dual Layer Shields Active IMO.
That's the only logical conclusion that I can come up with.
The only reason they can regenerate Shields that fast is if they pull a Nova-Class and take the shields offline to recharge the Shield Capacity faster, or quickly alternate shields with one set being Off-line and the other online to recharge one set faster than the other and quickly swap it around to quick recharge both sets in alternating bursts.
But I guess Vulcan's stick to their Ring based Coleopteric Warp Drives, even in the 24th century and their copper hull coloring.
It's pretty much iconic at this point.
Why do the Vulcans need two Shield Bars?
The Vulcans don't waste time / resource / GUI real estate for redundant & pointless info.
The only reason they would have two Shield Bars is because they would have Dual Layer Shields Active IMO.
That's the only logical conclusion that I can come up with.
The only reason they can regenerate Shields that fast is if they pull a Nova-Class and take the shields offline to recharge the Shield Capacity faster, or quickly alternate shields with one set being Off-line and the other online to recharge one set faster than the other and quickly swap it around to quick recharge both sets in alternating bursts.
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Well, that ship is ginormous. (And has portholes fifteen decks high. Perhaps the VR Dept of the Expeditionary Group sees merit in Phylosian cloning practices?) If the tiny Scimitar can mount double shields, this should go double for the Sh'val.
I haven't seen the episode, but the opening shot of the ship is on YouTube, and made me wonder if the Vulcans hadn't taken a head start in this detached warp nacelle business... But I now see conventional pylons. (Two of them? Isn't that redundant?)
Timo Saloniemi
I haven't seen the episode, but the opening shot of the ship is on YouTube, and made me wonder if the Vulcans hadn't taken a head start in this detached warp nacelle business... But I now see conventional pylons. (Two of them? Isn't that redundant?)
Timo Saloniemi
We saw another Vulcan ship earlier this year on Starbase 25. Amazing to see they've maintained the school of design post-TNG.
Mark
Mark
...I rather like to think that the school of design is older than the concept of schools on Earth - and that even the Sh'val herself was launched around the time Galileo was trying to decide which lens to put at which end of his tube. Hence the use of "ancient calligraphy" on the display screens!
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Vulcan society seems conservative, so designs that work may be used until something significantly better is designed.
And, of course, this is a new design we haven't seen before. I'm sure if you asked a Vulcan they would think it was as different from older generations of Vulcan ships as the Constitution is from the Galaxy. "Warp Ring alignment is 7% more efficient, it's revolutionary."
It's probably dishonorable to decommission a warship if there is any fight left in her at all. I also suspect they've just been building the same ship designs for 200 years, just with shield and weapon upgrades, sort of like the Excelsior Class refit of the Lakota.
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Look at my screen shots, the Warp Ring is attached to the aft of the ship via a "T-Shaped" structure, the ship's structure runs through the ring and gives the illusion that it's floating.
The large Triangles on each side look like Bussard Collectors to me, or they're large off axis Warp Field controllers to help with manuevering at Warp Speeds.
I've always wondered where the Vulcans hide their bussard Collectors, looks like they finally have two giant honking pairs.
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Vulcan ships are really nice. really employ the ring concept in an appealing way, more so than others I've seen.
Theory: The Pakleds detonated the bomb to study it and pretended not to know how bombs work in order to get another one. The Klingon captain believes it because he doesn't stop to question how a race that doesn't know how bombs work built a massive starship from scavenged parts.
Who's to say they did? 
The Klingon ship is an interesting mishmash of sets from across the franchise. The Bridge is mostly the Ch'tang, including the little side console the command chair had, but the tactical chair featured the gunner's scope from ST5 and Generations. The transporter room was lifted from ST6. And while the assorted Klingon blades were mostly new (bat'leths hang from the walls too), the Captain used a communicator from ST3 while in previous TNG-era episodes we generally see them use a combadge on the upper arm.
Mark
The Klingon ship is an interesting mishmash of sets from across the franchise. The Bridge is mostly the Ch'tang, including the little side console the command chair had, but the tactical chair featured the gunner's scope from ST5 and Generations. The transporter room was lifted from ST6. And while the assorted Klingon blades were mostly new (bat'leths hang from the walls too), the Captain used a communicator from ST3 while in previous TNG-era episodes we generally see them use a combadge on the upper arm.
Mark
That vulcan ship is HUGE! some shots make it seem its 3 times the Ritos, which is 535m so it 1.5 km long?! and the bird of prey was like a mosquito!
The old Enterprise ones were 700meters..
The old Enterprise ones were 700meters..
Actually the Klingon Bird of Prey felt properly scaled IMO relative to the USS Cerritos and the Vulcan Ship.
The Bird of Prey is supposed to be < 100 meters in length and be operated by a small crew.
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