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Spooks: Code 9

Oh yeah, this is the hot sexy kids version of the show? :lol:
Here's the question - better than Bonekickers?
 
Better than the season finale of Bonekickers at least, but then, I liked Bonekickers (with the exception of the last half of the last episode).
 
I've watched all but tonight's episode of Bonekickers, and I think I'll watch all of Spooks: Code 9. I think they're rather mediocre, but nothing terrible. I'm hoping Spooks improves, and I figure they're only 6 episodes each, it's no big loss if I don't like any of them.
 
When the Beeb failed to get an increased licence fee payment agreed last year, they cut the episode order for Spooks.

Why the fcuk didn't they leave well alone and just not commission this instead? Although, looking at the production values, that might have saved them enough to hire Peter Firth's shoes for a few more episodes.....
 
Uhm, BBC and BBC3 programmes would have been comissioned from a seperate pot of money - so you wouldn't have got more episodes for regular Spooks if this hadn't been made, you would have just got some other BBC3 drama.
 
^^ Indeed. Given the Beeb round of cost-cutting though, and given the audience share that BBC3 represents, they could have done a lot worse than shutting it down.
 
If you shut down Three, you'd be better off shutting down Four first, it has a smaller share. Personally I think the idea behind Three is decent enough, a low budget test bed for new shows, and new talent.
 
I wouldn't have a problem with them shutting down 3 and 4. If times are hard and money's scarce then you play to your strengths and consolidate your prime assets. By running 3 a 4 they're spreading themselves too thin on the ground. Code 9 pulled in under a million viewers, which is pretty good for BBC3. Alternatively, how many does an episode of Spooks get on BBC1? Then contrast that with what they'll get for a repeat of something that will take the place of what would have been a new episode of Spooks. I'd imagine that the dropoff is somewhere more than 1m.
 
You'd ideally have to ask what the ratings could have been if the episodes had been on BBC1 or BBC2 instead of BBC3.

1 - 810,000 viewers (3.8 % audience share)
2 - 703,000 viewers (4 % audience share)

And for Torchwood, with a similar pattern of the first two stories on the first night:

1 - 2,400,000 (12.7 % audience share)
2 - 2,300,000 (13.8 % audience share)

Code 9 has got much lower ratings than Torchwood did, but Torchwood still got the highest ratings the channel ever had - thus why BBC2 nabbed it and did Season 2.
 
I enjoyed it.

It was nothing special but very little on British television is these days. I prefer the American stuff.

The story is interesting and maybe Harry & Co messed up.

You only need to fuck up pnce if you're a spy.
 
Finally watched the second episode (the one that aired immediately after the pilot).

In a nutshell: Any agency that takes 3 days (or however much time elapsed in the episode) to change their freaking security passwords deserves to be sent to the glue factory.
 
In a nutshell: Any agency that takes 3 days (or however much time elapsed in the episode) to change their freaking security passwords deserves to be sent to the glue factory.
yeah I didnt hate this show, but even I thought that was strange
 
I thought the passwords were supposedly changed overnight? I'm guessing it could be down to the decentralisation of computer systems - it wouldn't be as simple as changing a password for a whole system on one computer, that it would need to be changed on several.
 
I did not even make it thought the first ep.
I found it so boring.
I wish they would shut down bbc 3 and 4 there a waste of money the few decent shows they have on 3 and 4 could be put on bbc 1 and 2 and that way they can have less repeats.
 
Thing is, that's a misunderstanding. As far as I comprehend it, if BBC3 and BBC4 were shut down, BBC1 and BBC2 wouldn't suddenly inherit their budget, their budgets would remain the same - so you'd end up with the decent shows on BBC3 and BBC4 not being able to be produced because the money from the main BBC channels is focused elsewhere.

BBC1 and BBC2 would probably get MORE repeats because they wouldn't have the option of buying in the cheap but new BBC3 and BBC4 shows to fill out their schedules like they do at present.
 
Thing is, that's a misunderstanding. As far as I comprehend it, if BBC3 and BBC4 were shut down, BBC1 and BBC2 wouldn't suddenly inherit their budget, their budgets would remain the same - so you'd end up with the decent shows on BBC3 and BBC4 not being able to be produced because the money from the main BBC channels is focused elsewhere.

BBC1 and BBC2 would probably get MORE repeats because they wouldn't have the option of buying in the cheap but new BBC3 and BBC4 shows to fill out their schedules like they do at present.
Pretty much. Budgets are accounted for, contracts signed, people employed, shows commissioned, etc. it'd take a couple of years before the budget was actually freed up. And then it wouldn't necessarily be funnelled in to BBC One and Two, it'd likely go towards funding new talent projects, new media projects, etc.
 
In better news, the third episode managed to earn a respectable "average" rating from me. I considered the first two episodes (and the second in particular) rather subpar, with the Bonekickers pilot having the benchmark of "god awful".

There's hope for this show yet. :techman:
 
^I thought the second was better than the first, and the third was better than the second, but yeah, the best it's managed is average... and that fucking stupid flag transition is annoying the piss out of me.
 
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