SPOILERS "The Good That Men Do" How'd you manage that?

[Sci]

I can see Shran and Soval-- but if we're going to count guest/recurring characters, then the comparison with TNG doesn't really hold, since those sorts of characters almost always change in a way the main cast doesn't on any show.

Erm, what? Maybe that was true in the 1980s, but television has, to paraphrase Picard, evolved a bit since then. On any good show these days, the main cast does change as much as, if not moreso than, recurring characters like Shran and Soval. Just check out Buffy the Vampire Slayer or The West Wing or Veronica Mars.

 

[Stevil2001]

I guess my wording was ambiguous-- "on any show" was meant to modify "these sorts of characters almost always change", not "the main cast doesn't [change]".

 

[Biggshow]

OK, so I just finished it today. Liked it a lot. I do have one question for any of the writers; why does everyone (Berman and Braga, Mangels and Martin) wimp-out when it comes to writing Archer's speech? I wanna hear/read it.

Should we have a "Write Archer's Speech" contest?

Also, do we know how well the book sold? Will there be more revised ENT history? Are there plans for an Earth-Romulan War series? Don't I ask a lot of questions for someone from Corona, CA (Gateway to Riverside or Orange County, depending on which direction on the 91 you're going)?

 

[Therin of Andor]

why does everyone (Berman and Braga, Mangels and Martin) wimp-out when it comes to writing Archer's speech? I wanna hear/read it.

Why did we never see Carlton the Doorman ("Rhoda"), or Niles' wife ("Frasier")?

Because sometimes it's more fun to keep imagining. Finally reading Archer's oft-discussed speech would no doubt disappoint many.

 

[KRAD]

OK, so I just finished it today. Liked it a lot. I do have one question for any of the writers; why does everyone (Berman and Braga, Mangels and Martin) wimp-out when it comes to writing Archer's speech? I wanna hear/read it.

After the gazelle speech, I'm just as happy never to read/hear another Jonathan Archer speech again. *shudder*

Also, do we know how well the book sold? Will there be more revised ENT history? Are there plans for an Earth-Romulan War series? Don't I ask a lot of questions for someone from Corona, CA (Gateway to Riverside or Orange County, depending on which direction on the 91 you're going)?

The next Enterprise book is Kobayashi Maru, by the M&M boys, which will be out in September 2008. And there are allegedly plans for the Romulan War, too.

 

[Pensive]

After the gazelle speech, I'm just as happy never to read/hear another Jonathan Archer speech again. *shudder*

lol, high five for that one KRAD.

(although his brief eulogy for Sim was pretty damn good)

 

[Christopher]

I don't have the mag in front of me, so maybe there is something I'm not remembering (I read through it in a rush before going to work), but Christopher, in your article, you mention that mind-melding was a near-forgotten practice limited to a small minority of Vulcans, which KRAD pointed out doesn't entirely track with what's later established. But didn't Surak tell Archer that mind-melding was the birthright of all Vulcans? And that that truth had been suppresed? Isn't that why T'Pol was able to meld with Hoshi later in the season? So isn't the "small minority" thing essentially de-bunked?

Well, yes, exactly. As I said in the article, "Fusion" established it was a near-forgotten practice limited to a small minority; then "Stigma" modified that by saying it was a well-known but stigmatized practice of that minority, one that most Vulcans just didn't talk about; and then the Vulcan Civil War arc reconciled that with the rest of Trek by revealing that it was, in fact, possible for all Vulcans. See, in the first part of the article I listed the apparent contradictions, and then later on I explained how they were reconcilable.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yeah, I got that eventually, upon re-reading the article. Me am slow on uptake.

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

I'll have to pick that issue up for that article. Of all the complaints leveled at ENT I think the "they got the Vulcans wrong" shtick was the most off base. I'm not a huge fan of the show, but I think they got a lot more right than people are generally willing to give them credit for.