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Spock/Burnham

If Sybok is canon, explain why he is never seen again, never shown in any flash backs, never mentioned by Sarek when talking about his family, never mentioned by Spock when talking about his family, Never mentioned by Amanda when talking about her family.

Sybok isn't canon, he's been retconned out of existence.

I guess, Kirk's brother or Scotty's sister or nephew have been retconned out too?
 
Online perhaps. I have mulled over retirement though. My old man retires in 2021 and if this BBS is still here, who knows?

Back to canon. Crap (that's regrettably canon) that I hate:

- Threshold and those damned lizards
- Sybok. Really?
- Abrams-verse
- Seven of Nine
- Kirk's death
- Perrin
- How nuTrek dealt with Kirk, Sarek, Scotty, etc.
- The horrible ending of VOY
- Chakotay/Seven
- The horrible ending of ENT
- Nemeshit. What they did to the Romulan intelligence...ugh.

So far nothing has irked me that much on DISC. But it's early days, *grin*

If other people think the things I hate are great and I'm a moron for my opinion, well I just don't care. It's just a TV show. It's actually a compliment to the writers/actors if something irritates you so much that you want to de-canonize it. It means you care about what you're seeing on the screen. Better that than indifference/not watching.

Although I've been known-to "hate watch" before (see: Jericho). WHAT? It's great fun to do that sometimes!

IF it's still here?

You realise we don't actually have anywhere else to go?
 
No, it is true. They didn't want fuller to make the new series an anthology, they didn't like his ideas for the uniforms and other creative decisions. The executives were unhappy with him even before American Gods became a thing.

How about you google 'why fuller was fired' and read some of the articles that come up. You may find them enlightening.

1) The Anthology idea was abandoned long before Discovery started production

2) If CBS executives weren't happy with Fuller's ideas, they wouldn't have greenlit Discovery in the first place, let alone put it on the air
 
If Sybok is canon, explain why he is never seen again, never shown in any flash backs, never mentioned by Sarek when talking about his family, never mentioned by Spock when talking about his family, Never mentioned by Amanda when talking about her family..

The whales in STAR TREK IV have never been mentioned again. The Genesis Device was never mentioned on TNG or any of its spawn. Kirk never mentioned Edith Keeler again. Uhura never mentions that time she had her mind wiped. Decker, Ilia, and V'Ger have never been mentioned again. Kirk' never mentions having to kill his best friend, Gary Mitchell. Most of Kirk's love interests vanish without explanation.

If the criteria is "it's not canon unless it's referenced more than once," than I'm afraid that most of STAR TREK is not "canon."

FYI: I mentioned Sybok in one of the novels just a few years ago. Nobody blinked and insisted he wasn't canon.
 
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Well the daughter had no choice but to go to Starfleet after he screwed her over by choosing his son, who then screwed both of them over by choosing Starfleet over the Vulcan Space Sailors.

Bad Spock. :p
 
Based on Disco, I don't even get why Sarek even had a low opinion of Starfleet. His adopted daughter joined Starfleet by his insistence, he's good friends with a Starfleet Captain (Georgiou) and he even got to hang out with Starfleet Admirals, go on tactical missions with them, and even had a part in plotting the potential destruction of Qo'nos for Starfleet. And yet a decade later he shows disdain for Starfleet and the Enterprise officers.

Or is it the Enterprise in particular that earned his ire, and the season 2 premiere is going to expand on that?
 
Based on Disco, I don't even get why Sarek even had a low opinion of Starfleet. His adopted daughter joined Starfleet by his insistence, he's good friends with a Starfleet Captain (Georgiou) and he even got to hang out with Starfleet Admirals, go on tactical missions with them, and even had a part in plotting the potential destruction of Qo'nos for Starfleet. And yet a decade later he shows disdain for Starfleet and the Enterprise officers.

Or is it the Enterprise in particular that earned his ire, and the season 2 premiere is going to expand on that?

Maybe the Enterprise in particular precisely because it's Spock's ship?
 
Except in TVH that he actually loathed Kirk and the other senior staff for some reason.

Surely that actually makes more sense, he isn't able to deal with and rationalise those emotions because under any other circumstance his Vulcan control keeps them in check. Therefore he acts irrationally towards the crew of Spock's ship by association?
 
Based on Disco, I don't even get why Sarek even had a low opinion of Starfleet. His adopted daughter joined Starfleet by his insistence, he's good friends with a Starfleet Captain (Georgiou) and he even got to hang out with Starfleet Admirals, go on tactical missions with them, and even had a part in plotting the potential destruction of Qo'nos for Starfleet. And yet a decade later he shows disdain for Starfleet and the Enterprise officers.

Or is it the Enterprise in particular that earned his ire, and the season 2 premiere is going to expand on that?
In ten years opinions can't change?
 
Based on Disco, I don't even get why Sarek even had a low opinion of Starfleet. His adopted daughter joined Starfleet by his insistence, he's good friends with a Starfleet Captain (Georgiou) and he even got to hang out with Starfleet Admirals, go on tactical missions with them, and even had a part in plotting the potential destruction of Qo'nos for Starfleet. And yet a decade later he shows disdain for Starfleet and the Enterprise officers.

I've bolded the important part here. Sarek is ashamed (as he can be for a Vulcan) for plotting genocide. Starfleet agreed with that plan, and he judges them to be bad people for not refusing to go along with that plan.
 
After finding out that her husband has genocidal tendencies, Amanda has an affair with Pike, Sarek wants a challenge to the death, Starfleet refuses and covers the whole thing up, Sarek illogically despises every Starfleet officer from that moment.
 
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