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Spidey OUT of MCU

flavaflav said:
If they get bought out or merge with another company then 100% of nothing is nothing.
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I don't know why you're so convinced that this is going to happen, but whatever.

Disney taking half of the profits from a property that they don't own is bad business for the company that does own said property, and Sony was absolutely justified in saying "no" to that demand.

The fact that Disney fanbois can't see past their own ears and recognize that is irrelevant.
 
Aggressive negotiations........and I bet everything will be settled by Sunday at D-23......and they lived happily ever after. At least for 5-7 more movies.
 
KennyB said:
Aggressive negotiations........and I bet everything will be settled by Sunday at D-23......and they lived happily ever after. At least for 5-7 more movies.
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I wouldn't count on it.

If Disney were interested in anything other than 50% of the profits related to Spidey (on top of the profits they already get from merchandising), they would've presented a counter-offer while negotiations were still ongoing, and with Sony already prepared to move forward without Feige, it's unlikely that they'll go back to Disney "just to make fans happy".
 
Or perhaps Disney are savvy enough to play a waiting game on the basis of expecting this to fail, hurt Sony and alter the balance of power between the parties a few years down the line.
 
Spot261 said:
Or perhaps Disney are savvy enough to play a waiting game on the basis of expecting this to fail, hurt Sony and alter the balance of power between the parties a few years down the line.
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That's not a smart gambit on their part because Sony's Spidey franchise hasn't "failed" yet (every film, including the pre-MCU ones, has made money, even if some of those profits were smaller than what Sony execs at the time had been wanting).

Throwing away an unprecedented deal like their licensing partnership with Sony "on the off-chance that a Feige-less Spider-Man fails" is extremely stupid (and Disney isn't usually known for being stupid).
 
DigificWriter said:
I don't know why you're so convinced that this is going to happen, but whatever.

Disney taking half of the profits from a property that they don't own is bad business for the company that does own said property, and Sony was absolutely justified in saying "no" to that demand.

The fact that Disney fanbois can't see past their own ears and recognize that is irrelevant.
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Your reading comprehension is horrible. Disney wouldn't be taking anything, they want to put up half the production costs too. This was confirmed in the article which you claimed didn't show you were wrong on the negotiations (but in fact it did). The same article also talks about Sony being bought out or merged, which is inevitable. Don't worry Trumpkins, I'll help with getting your facts straight.
 
I'm seeing a lot of talk on Facebook that they've already reached a new deal? They all link to dreaded Youtube videos and nothing more concrete though.
 
flavaflav said:
Your reading comprehension is horrible. Disney wouldn't be taking anything, they want to put up half the production costs too. This was confirmed in the article which you claimed didn't show you were wrong on the negotiations (but in fact it did). The same article also talks about Sony being bought out or merged, which is inevitable. Don't worry Trumpkins, I'll help with getting your facts straight.
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I generally agree with your pov for the most part, but you've got to stop throwing out this particular argument. 50% cofinancing is not automatically equal to 50% profit sharing when you actually do the math. That's absolutely torturing the statistics.

Specifically, if Disney co-finances 50% of a 160k budget and then reaps 50% of a 1.2 billion gross, they are paying in 80k and then taking out 600k. Sony goes home with 600k, for 520k profit. If Sony pays the 80k themselves and only makes a flat billion gross, Sony goes home with 1b - 160k for 840k profit. 300k more profit than the disney proposal would give even with the movie hypothetically grossing 200k more under Disney.
 
^ I'll believe that if it happens or if a verifiably reliable new outlet like Deadline, THR, or Variety reports on it.
 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
so tell me where the logic is flawed here
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I find it very hard to believe Feige can't handle running the MCU movies at this point. He's been in charge of multiple movies for years, and I'm pretty sure he knows what he can handle if he was having problems, which I have seen no signs of at this point.
Even if he was having problems, I can't see Disney purposefully sabotaging negotiations for Marvel's #1 characters. If they got to a point where they had to get rid of a character, I have a feeling they would go for one of the less popular ones.
 
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I found the time spent in Far From Home on material from movies that one may or may not have bothered with - the awards ceremony where May was going on about her apartment getting leased to someone while she was on some other plane or something, the silly throwaway about the guy who was competing for MJ's attention having been a little kid recently, a lot of talk about Tony Stark etc - to be tedious. In terms of the quality of the experience watching one of these movies, if stuff like that disappears it won't be a bad thing.
 
The last thing this situation needs is chuckleheads spreading BS and giving the overemotional Disney fanbois more "stupidity fuel".
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Sounds too good to be true. Never heard of TVO or Lord of the Box, so I'm highly skeptical. The 7-film plan with connections to Firestar, Iceman, and Human Torch reads like a fanboy's pipe dream (mind you, a good one, but still...).
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Bounding Into Comics has cited MIdnight's Edge and Doomcock as "sources" in the past, so that places TVO and Bounding Into Comics on the same level of credibility.
 
I've only seen stuff that came out of BoundingIntoComics a couple times before this, and it seems to pretty much all be ridiculous bullshit.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
I've never heard of those two either so... :lol:
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You mean that you haven't heard that Star Trek Discovery is a complete abysmal failure, but they keep renewing it for... reasons? That they put multiple Trek shows into production to cover up the failure of Discovery (and just try to parse that logic) because... reasons? Or that CBS fired Alex Kurtzman months ago but he keeps promoting Star Trek for them because... reasons? Yeah, they're reliable.:ack:
 
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