Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread

[Venardhi]

I really like the new suit but the Raimi duds are probably the closest to what I see as the "iconic" Spider-Man.

Given that Stark helped him out with the new suit I think they missed a laugh by not having Tony question his choice of colors only to have it thrown back in his face.

 

[Christopher]

I really like the new suit but the Raimi duds are probably the closest to what I see as the "iconic" Spider-Man.

I thought they were way too slick and elaborate. I feel the design from the '70s live-action TV series is actually a closer approximation of what a teen/college student creating a homemade costume might be able to pull off. On that show, the eye pieces were essentially the lenses of mirrored sunglasses incorporated into the mask, and that's probably what they actually would've been; comics canon is that they are one-way-mirror Mylar lenses, and the most likely source of those that Peter Parker could get hold of would be mirrored sunglasses.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Steve Ditko and John Romita Sr. were big Spidey artists back in the 60s. Kirby never did artwork for Spider-Man. Romita Sr stayed on Spidey till the 80s, I believe. Romita Jr picked up the art on Spider-Man after his father.

Romita Sr ended his most consistent run in 1974, when Ross Andru took over the ASM title. Even then, Gil Kane pencilled several issues, or Romita inked his work. Romita inked a few Andru pencils and provided many covers well into the late 1970s, but his next significant Spidey contribution were most covers of Spidey Super Stories, the newspaper strip, trade paperback covers, Marvel magazines and the "Treasury Edition" (tabloid size) publications. Not to mention his becoming art director in that decade.

 

[Reverend]

Kirby? I though the big-eyed design originated with Todd McFarlane. Kirby was never the regular artist on a Spidey book, was he?

Steve Ditko and John Romita Sr. were big Spidey artists back in the 60s. Kirby never did artwork for Spider-Man. Romita Sr stayed on Spidey till the 80s, I believe. Romita Jr picked up the art on Spider-Man after his father.

Ditko began the Spidey eye movement on the mask and Romita Sr kept up with it. Macfarlane in the 90s is the one who made the lenses on the mask huge.

I think I meant Romita, not Kirby. Definitely not McFarlane.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I thought they were way too slick and elaborate. I feel the design from the '70s live-action TV series is actually a closer approximation of what a teen/college student creating a homemade costume might be able to pull off. On that show, the eye pieces were essentially the lenses of mirrored sunglasses incorporated into the mask, and that's probably what they actually would've been; comics canon is that they are one-way-mirror Mylar lenses, and the most likely source of those that Peter Parker could get hold of would be mirrored sunglasses.

And that is exactly what the lenses were in TAS 1 movie.
The suit was a modified spandex suit he ordered online somewhere I think.

 

[Samurai8472]

"Panicked unnecessarily?"

Hardly. TASM2 did not perform anywhere near to expectations and Sony was right to cut and run. Speaking just for myself, I certainly wouldn't have bothered with TASM3 had it been made. Both TASM movies were bland and poorly written, and I can't see where a 3rd movie could have improved things. The dangling plot threads were irrelevant to me. The Marvel/Sony partnership is the best thing that has happened to the character.

I didn't think Garfield needed to booted out though

Rather someone like the Russo Brothers needed to come along and manage Garfield's performance.

Maybe in "Civil War" have a small reference to Gwen dying

"When you do the things I can do and people die. It becomes your burden to live to with"

Ofcourse with Spidey in the Marvel Universe we can now have a different types of films instead of the same Spider-man movies we've been getting since 2002

Villain is created
Villain fights Spider-man
Villain get's killed

next movie.

Raimi and Webb movies never really went anywhere. Spider-man 3 and Amazing Spider-man 2 ended with loose ends still dangling.

I wish Garfield could do a couple more movies. He put his heart into it.

 

[Venardhi]

I thought they were way too slick and elaborate. I feel the design from the '70s live-action TV series is actually a closer approximation of what a teen/college student creating a homemade costume might be able to pull off. On that show, the eye pieces were essentially the lenses of mirrored sunglasses incorporated into the mask, and that's probably what they actually would've been; comics canon is that they are one-way-mirror Mylar lenses, and the most likely source of those that Peter Parker could get hold of would be mirrored sunglasses.

Oh it was definitely far too polished and perfect, but that is why I said "Iconic" and not "Definitive." It looks like what he might have 10 years into his hero career, definitely not the first proper suit he makes.

I didn't think Garfield needed to booted out though

Rather someone like the Russo Brothers needed to come along and manage Garfield's performance.
...
I wish Garfield could do a couple more movies. He put his heart into it.

From some of the e-mail leaks last year It sounds like Garfield was on his way out anyways, or at least wasn't giving the studio much reason not to go with the Marvel offer.

 

[Christopher]

Maybe in "Civil War" have a small reference to Gwen dying

"When you do the things I can do and people die. It becomes your burden to live to with"

No, that's a reference to Uncle Ben dying. That was what Peter said in answer to Tony asking why he became a crimefighter, and that was because of his burden of guilt at failing to stop the burglar who went on to kill Uncle Ben.

 

[Samurai8472]

^

Sorry I meant that if Garfield was in Civil War than that line would reference Gwen's death

 

[M.A.C.O.]

According to reports from Sony's January Spider-Man summit, whether a deal was struck with Marvel or not, TPTB at Sony were going to reboot Spider-Man anyway. Some reports suggested Garfield was fired for not going to Brazil and meeting the Sony president during an event of sorts. While others stated Garfield had spoke once with Marvel and Sony about him returning but he decided to pass. With the whole hack by North Korea, email leaks and Sony in financial trouble during the last quarter of 2014, there isn't a clear sequence of events of what all went down.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think had Garfield been in Civil War, the scenes he shared with Tony Stark would just make it ridiculously obvious that he's way too old to play the character.

 

[DigificWriter]

Re: Spider-Man 3 ending without resolution, how in the world is Peter forgiving Flint Marko, reconciling with and forgiving a dying Harry, and rekindling his relationship with Mary Jane considered "ending without resolution"?

 

[dahj]

I doubt Garfield was ever considered for the MCU Spidey.
He'd be ~40 by the time the 3rd MCU Spider-Man solo movie came out...

 

[Christopher]

Re: Spider-Man 3 ending without resolution, how in the world is Peter forgiving Flint Marko, reconciling with and forgiving a dying Harry, and rekindling his relationship with Mary Jane considered "ending without resolution"?

Yeah, that's why I like SM3 despite its problems -- I think it brings excellent resolution to Peter and Harry's arc through the trilogy.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

I doubt Garfield was ever considered for the MCU Spidey.
He'd be ~40 by the time the 3rd MCU Spider-Man solo movie came out...

At the time though, Sony still had their TASM 3 film slated for 2017 (which is now Homecoming) and intended for a Sinister Six movie this past summer. Plus their now defunct Venom & Carnage and Black Cat movies.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I think had Garfield been in Civil War, the scenes he shared with Tony Stark would just make it ridiculously obvious that he's way too old to play the character.

Too old, and just wrong for the part. His straight jacket act would have been a distraction in the MCU films.

Re: Spider-Man 3 ending without resolution, how in the world is Peter forgiving Flint Marko, reconciling with and forgiving a dying Harry, and rekindling his relationship with Mary Jane considered "ending without resolution"?

Yes--the series ended wrapping up all matters--perhaps not in the way Spider-Man 2 handled its "A" story, but it reached a natural conclusion.

 

[LJones41]

I think had Garfield been in Civil War, the scenes he shared with Tony Stark would just make it ridiculously obvious that he's way too old to play the character.

Why? Why does Peter Parker/Spider-Man has to be perpetually a teenager? He aged in the comics. Why won't Hollywood allow him to age or be slightly older in the films? And I don't see why Andrew Garfield's Spidey couldn't be in "Civil War". The writers would simply have to re-write the story to fit a somewhat older Peter Parker. I find it hard to believe that would be so hard.

And what is this never ending obsession with Andrew Garfield's age?

 

[Turtletrekker]

No, he doesn't have to be perpetually a teenager, but that's how he works best. Besides, Tom Holland is much better in the role, and I don't want the crappy Andrew Garfield movies stinking up the MCU. Besides, as has been pointed out, Andrew Garfield was on his way out whether or not the Marvel deal happened or not.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

Despite what a few strangely change-hating people on a genre message forum think, Holland is being MUCH better received than any of the previous Spider-Man actors.

The only explanation I have for the nearly masturbatory love of either Garfield or MacGuire is that they were people's first exposure to the character, and that created a very unfortunate connection for them. At least that's the only explanation that makes any amount of sense to me, because otherwise people are just "hating for the sake of hating" or however the parlance goes. Tom Holland has done a great job of portraying both Peter and Spidey from what we've seen so far, and he's being handled by people who actually understand and want the character to succeed, as opposed to using him/them only as a cash cow and to retain their license.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't even have any clear memories of the MacGuire and Garfield films.