Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so much

[WillsBabe]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Don't you feel cheated when an episode ends with "This was all a bad dream."? That is what it would have been if they had not cut back to the Enterprise during the dream sequence. There is no suspense to build up to when the conclusion is that none of it really happened. That is lame and it seems the writers were trying to avoid that.

I don't feel cheated in the least -- and this is probably why intercutting to the Bridge doesn't bother me --- because the dream has such a profound, lasting effect on Picard. Ultimately, the nature of the experience (true out of body, dream, hallucination, artificial memory) doesn't matter because the experience itself is so visceral, so real that, for Picard, it *was* real -- regardless of what transpired during his experience.

To live an entire lifetime in the span of minutes is truly profound and, personally, I'm glad it wasn't given some perfunctory "reveal" at the end of the episode as a dream (think of the series finale to Newhart). Establishing its true nature early on with various returns to the bridge allows the audience to focus on the experience Picard is having, rather than spending time wondering about the nature of the experience.

Think about it ... life is so often filled with choices, and Picard chose a life of relative solitude as an explorer. And yet, through the Probe, he gets something he did not (and we would not) have: the chance to live a completely different life (in this case, a more domestic, but no less fulfilling one). Which is better? No one can really say. But Picard, at least, is able to experience both. And the journey is deeply moving. Knowing that it is happening within the span of minutes on the bridge merely reinforces that fact.

For me at least.

I totally agree with this. For me, I'm not interested in any mystery of why Picard is apparently living this alternative life. To me the contrast of the life he chose and the life he could have had is starkly contrasted in the cutting back to the bridge. To me that is the point of the episode, not why it's happening to him.

 

[RAMA]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

The whole episode would have been so awesome of only for one thing - if they didn't keep cutting back to Picard lying unconscious on the bridge!
It completely ruined any mystery or suspense and it became painfully obvious how the episode was going to end. That decision seriously tainted the episode for me, it was a great emotional episode, it didn't need the mystery revealed immediately or the accompanying intermittent technobabble.

Those are establishing scenes you HAVE to have them. I'm glad you're not writing for TV.

RAMA

Sorry but that's almost as stupid as signing your name (which is also your profile name) at the end of every comment, there is no rule anywhere that says a tv show must do this and that- if there was, how would anyone ever come up with fresh ideas?
TV episodes are always more effective when the mystery is revealed slowly to us and this in fact has been utilised in dozens of tv episodes in dozens of tv shows.
I don't see how anyone enjoyed having almost the entire plot destroyed by them (probe comes along and beams stuff into Picard's brain - wow, how exciting and mysterious), the remaining mystery of why the probe is doing it is fairly obvious especially when you consider the planet appears to be dying from the get go.

Its a more personal touch that I used back on older BBs before they got this fancy. I prefer doing it and actually add some flair sometimes. If that makes it a stupid practice so be it. At least I don't start stupid posts.

 

[Jaespol]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Its a more personal touch that I used back on older BBs before they got this fancy. I prefer doing it and actually add some flair sometimes. If that makes it a stupid practice so be it. At least I don't start stupid posts.

Oh so me criticizing "The Inner Light" is stupid, everyone has the right to an opinion and in case you didn't notice, quite a few people agree with me.
And anyone who doesn't regarding this matter is a douche basically.

 

[Holdfast]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Its a more personal touch that I used back on older BBs before they got this fancy. I prefer doing it and actually add some flair sometimes. If that makes it a stupid practice so be it. At least I don't start stupid posts.

Oh so me criticizing "The Inner Light" is stupid, everyone has the right to an opinion and in case you didn't notice, quite a few people agree with me.
And anyone who doesn't regarding this matter is a douche basically.

(emphasis mine)

There's a big difference between your critiquing an episode or RAMA critiquing the topic and you then going on to call all those disagreeing with you "a douche". Especially after your earlier unnecessarily personally abusive comment to RAMA about his signing his name (though that is not what this warning is for, merely further background context).

Warning for Flaming, comments to PM.

 

[Jaespol]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Its a more personal touch that I used back on older BBs before they got this fancy. I prefer doing it and actually add some flair sometimes. If that makes it a stupid practice so be it. At least I don't start stupid posts.

Oh so me criticizing "The Inner Light" is stupid, everyone has the right to an opinion and in case you didn't notice, quite a few people agree with me.
And anyone who doesn't regarding this matter is a douche basically.

Especially after your earlier unnecessarily personally abusive comment to RAMA about his signing his name (though that is not what this warning is for, merely further background context).

Warning for Flaming, comments to PM.

I accept the infraction for calling all the people who disagree with me a douche...but you have to be joking if you think me pointing out Rama's ridiculous practise of signing his name at the end of every post (when we already see it in every post at the side anyway) "personally abusive", that really is just laughable, there's nothing personal or abusive about it.

 

[RAMA]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Oh so me criticizing "The Inner Light" is stupid, everyone has the right to an opinion and in case you didn't notice, quite a few people agree with me.
And anyone who doesn't regarding this matter is a douche basically.

Especially after your earlier unnecessarily personally abusive comment to RAMA about his signing his name (though that is not what this warning is for, merely further background context).

Warning for Flaming, comments to PM.

I accept the infraction for calling all the people who disagree with me a douche...but you have to be joking if you think me pointing out Rama's ridiculous practise of signing his name at the end of every post (when we already see it in every post at the side anyway) "personally abusive", that really is just laughable, there's nothing personal or abusive about it.

No its great and you're the only person who thinks that. Get over it.

 

[RAMA]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Its a more personal touch that I used back on older BBs before they got this fancy. I prefer doing it and actually add some flair sometimes. If that makes it a stupid practice so be it. At least I don't start stupid posts.

Oh so me criticizing "The Inner Light" is stupid, everyone has the right to an opinion and in case you didn't notice, quite a few people agree with me.
And anyone who doesn't regarding this matter is a douche basically.

Far more people disagree with you, so you must be wrong right?

 

[Holdfast]

Re: Sorry but the Inner Light was ruined for me, didn't enjoy it so mu

Especially after your earlier unnecessarily personally abusive comment to RAMA about his signing his name (though that is not what this warning is for, merely further background context).

Warning for Flaming, comments to PM.

I accept the infraction for calling all the people who disagree with me a douche...but you have to be joking if you think me pointing out Rama's ridiculous practise of signing his name at the end of every post (when we already see it in every post at the side anyway) "personally abusive", that really is just laughable, there's nothing personal or abusive about it.

No its great and you're the only person who thinks that. Get over it.

Don't turn this issue into an end-run around the "no image-sigs in posts" convention we have across the BBS, please.

Back on to topic and enough of the parlour games, thank you all.