something i noticed when tv channels show Star Trek II Wrath of Khan

[urrutiap]

I would challenge one to find anything BUT the theatrical cut OTA or streaming. (You can rent or buy the Director's Cut.)

Of course (as we have mentioned) this is no edition that does not have Spock and Saavik talking to each other in Vulcan.

Are any of the Director's cuts (I,II, and VI) available on streaming (not purchase or rent) OTHER than the Motion Picture? And TMP is ONLY available as the DE.

yes Star Trek 1 to 4 have been streaming on some channel on slingtv and Wrath of khan on some channel on slingtv it also had the extra scene of Scotty introducing his nephew.

but if you people here still want to disagre and argue about it go ahead. i dont give a hoot since i was right the entire time anyway

end of discussion

 

[Grant]

Okay, so.... troll confirmed. Whatever floats his boat. I won't be reading any more posts from this person from now on.

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[BillJ]

shut up. i aint an effin troll.

you just dont want to accept the fact that i was right the whole damn time anyway

I’ve been watching this stuff since 1975. You’re wrong. Completely wrong.

 

[cooleddie74]

I watched the movie twice in theaters in 1982 and then on pay cable in the mid-80s. The Saavik and Spock conversation was in there back then.

 

[Grant]

Since we are discussing this scene that appeared out of nowhere in 2002 -- here is the full scripted version. Note that Spock doesn't "dismiss the company" until after the exchange as opposed to before it in the filmed version.

SAAVIK
He's not what I expected, Sir.

SPOCK
What did you expect, Lieutenant?

SAAVIK
(uncertain)
He's very human.

SPOCK
We can't all be perfect, Saavik.
You must control your prejudices
and remember that as a Vulcan as
well as a Romulan you are forever
a stranger in an alien land.
Around you are humans, and as a
member of the Starfleet you are
unlikely ever to escape their
presence or their influence.
You must learn to tolerance in addition
to all else I have taught you.
Tolerance is logical.

Saavik is humbled.

SAAVIK
As always, my mentor. Company dismiss.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

CometTV recently had a II, III, IV marathon and I can assure you that the Spock/Saavik conversation at the airlock was there and has always been there.
My family saw the movie when it premiered in the theater and the line "So human", got a big laugh out of the audience.

 

[Campe]

I think I still have my VHS in a box somewhere. Sadly I don’t think I have a player. But I was young and watched the movies A LOT in the 1980s and 90s. I went through two copies of my TWOK tapes. (Ironic since I now find the movie overrated. Good, but not amazing.) The scene was there in both tapes I had, the theatrical and directors edition DVDs I owned, the blu-ray and the iTunes file I have. It’s always been there. Not to mention the number of times I watched it on TV and the time we had a random radio station try their hand at playing audio from movies and TWOK was in the mix.

So, no. The original thesis of this thread is flawed and the OP is incorrect and has not been “right the entire time.”

 

[Tallguy]

My family saw the movie when it premiered in the theater and the line "So human", got a big laugh out of the audience.

It's the way Alley wrinkles her nose. And the way she emphasizes the Vulcan "komihn" is hilarious. And the shoulders.

(It's rocking my world that Nimoy just said "Saavik" and yet we are convinced that his mouth pronounces "Saavik-kam".)

Her line delivery may have been off on set, but the reason this could be not only saved but made into an amazing performance with dubbing is because her presence and body language were spot on!

A little further afield. I've been watching a lot of the Brit panel show Q.I. I've often thought this before but watching this TWOK clip just now was a little eerie. Someone must somehow get Aisling Bea to play Saavik!

 

[M'Sharak]

so dont effin tell me that im wrong.

that scene of Saavik and Spock was never in the original version of Star Trek II

I've seen the movie exactly once: in the theater, on its original release. That scene was in the movie.

 

[Set Harth]

I've seen the movie exactly once: in the theater, on its original release.

You never watched it on video?

 

[David cgc]

I've seen the movie exactly once: in the theater, on its original release. That scene was in the movie.

No, okay, forget the OP, I want to talk about how the moderator of a Star Trek internet forum has only watched The Wrath of Khan once in 44 years.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

The scene in question

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[Tallguy]

The scene in question

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SIXTEEN seconds. FOUR of that is silence.

 

[Mudd]

shut up. i aint an effin troll.

you just dont want to accept the fact that i was right the whole damn time anyway

You're wrong. The scene between Nimoy and Alley was in the movie when it first exhibited in June 1982.

In fact, you offered no evidence to contradict that, since you can't.

 

[Grant]

Pretty sure the scene was a 2002 reshoot with then using CGI de-aging technology to match the earlier part of the scene. I think I'm being persuaded ala' "12 Angry Men"

 

[M'Sharak]

You never watched it on video?

Never.

No, okay, forget the OP, I want to talk about how the moderator of a Star Trek internet forum has only watched The Wrath of Khan once in 44 years.

Oh, I've seen short vids of one scene here or another scene there. Kinda difficult to hang around a place like this for as long as I have and NOT do that.

But once through, from beginning to end -- that was enough.

 

[Tosk]

i dont give a hoot

I think you do.

since i was right the entire time anyway

I don't think you were.

end of discussion

I don't think it is.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The scene in question

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That's always been in the movie.

 

[Grant]

Come on guys...."It's been proven I was right all along!!" ...is a pretty compelling argument that has to be carefully considered. What's next? -- are you going to demand a single shred of evidence? That's a high hurdle to cross.