It would be a violation of the burglar's human rights
Someone tried to break into my house!!!
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Actually they're not.. they need to be loud and possibly visible (install a signal light). All the alarm has to do is to draw attention to your house and the potential thief will most likely hightail it outta there. Can't rob a house if it's blaring loudly and a neighbor or someone else might take a look.
As i said.. your countermeasures are only there to make it as hard as possible to enter your house and to take as long as possible because every second the thief needs more to get in is a second that makes his discovery more likely.
Unless he's really determined (or you have such good stuff in your house) he may decide it's too much trouble and risk so he leaves.
Yeah......................I live in Texas. That's not really a big problem here. You're allowed to shoot anyone that breaks into your home while you're still in it.
Yes, really.
I was talking to a guy online years ago who said he was moving to America, so that he could own a gun and use it to shoot anyone who broke into his house. I asked on an American based MB and was told by several people that under no circumstances were you allowed to just randomly shoot someone you found on your property, unless you could prove they were armed and attacking you.
Clearly they can't have been from Texas...
Judy Waxhorn
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Luanne and I rent an apartment. Grote Street isn't the nicest of areas so we have the following:
Glass-breakage sensors on all windows
Motion detectors covering each room.
Video cameras watching the doors.
Central Alarm System monitored by ADT.
I have two deadbolt locks per door in addition to a chain and the lock on the doorknob. You knock on my door I can see you with my cam from my computer.
As for ADT.... ADT contacts us whenever something trips... one of the annoyances of having motion detectors is sometimes air currents will trigger them. I have a friend who works there I will email her asking what would cause them not to call.
I'd be on the phone with customer service... escalate it to a Manager and demand an answer. I'd also imply lawyers... Implied Lawyers can solve many problems.
Glass-breakage sensors on all windows
Motion detectors covering each room.
Video cameras watching the doors.
Central Alarm System monitored by ADT.
I have two deadbolt locks per door in addition to a chain and the lock on the doorknob. You knock on my door I can see you with my cam from my computer.
As for ADT.... ADT contacts us whenever something trips... one of the annoyances of having motion detectors is sometimes air currents will trigger them. I have a friend who works there I will email her asking what would cause them not to call.
I'd be on the phone with customer service... escalate it to a Manager and demand an answer. I'd also imply lawyers... Implied Lawyers can solve many problems.
I've been told the same applies in New Mexico, too. If someone is stupid enough to walk into your home, you have every right to shoot them first and ask questions later.
That’s why we’re seriously considering (as in “only a matter of time”) to get the cameras. I know that the internal alarm is LOUD, deafeningly LOUD, yet sounds quiet outside. As long as the thief sees that they’re on candid camera, I’m hoping they’re willing to stick to trespassing on private property, and hightail it out of there.
Luanne and I rent an apartment. Grote Street isn't the nicest of areas so we have the following:
Glass-breakage sensors on all windows
Motion detectors covering each room.
Video cameras watching the doors.
Central Alarm System monitored by ADT.
I have two deadbolt locks per door in addition to a chain and the lock on the doorknob. You knock on my door I can see you with my cam from my computer.
As for ADT.... ADT contacts us whenever something trips... one of the annoyances of having motion detectors is sometimes air currents will trigger them. I have a friend who works there I will email her asking what would cause them not to call.
I'd be on the phone with customer service... escalate it to a Manager and demand an answer. I'd also imply lawyers... Implied Lawyers can solve many problems.
We have motion detectors in the hallway and living/dining rooms. We’re planning on glass-break sound detectors. Hubby will be replacing the broken motion-detector backyard light--he just needs a very long ladder to reach it.
And ADT did not call me. I appreciate your emailing them. I was told that the phone numbers showed up on the computer, but the records show that no call was made to me. I WILL pursue this.
Finally, I am a lawyer, though non-praticing.
My sister-in-law’s boyfriend had a home-invasion. There was a scuffle, which continued outside. The neighbors came to help when the guy wouldn’t stop attacking. Repeated hits with a baseball bat wasn’t stopping this bad guy, until he finally went down for good. The bad guy is hospitalized, may have brain damage, and is being charged with attempted murder. The boyfriend is in the clear and finally getting an alarm system.
from that ^ link said:
as in defended yourself against an attack, whereby your life was in danger. Which doesn't really cover finding someone in your basement.
I recall a discussion on a TV show where a guy was disturbed by a noise in the night, got up to look, found some drunk bloke pee-ing on the living room carpet and punched him in the face. Home owner was arrested (IIRC) but it never really went anywhere as pee-ing on your carpet isn't considered to be a good enough reason to attack someone who's entered your property (in England this was - the law in Scotland could be different)
See this worries me greatly, what if I got lost and mistakenly entered the wrong house?
Or (as I said to the fella I was talking to as per my earlier post) "so if I was staying at your house, got up to go to the loo in the middle of the night, got 'lost' (due to not knowing the layout of the house), and you heard me, you'd just get out of bed and shoot me in the head?"
I think the point the Crown Prosecutor was trying to make is that if you catch an intruder, you shouldn't knock them unconscious, drag them down to your basement, chain them up, and sodomize and torture them to punish them for breaking into your house. Nor should you try to plead self-defence after doing so, and expect to be taken seriously.
There's a difference between striking someone in self-defence, out of fear for your life or safety, and inflicting a punishment beating on someone. The former is legal everywhere. The latter is not, and I expect that in cases where homeowners get in trouble for violence against intruders, like the case you mentioned, the trouble arises because police suspect the homeowner of meting out a little vigilante justice, instead of just defending themselves.
People don't waive all their rights just because they've broken into your house. (Except in Texas and New Mexico, I mean) Assault is assault, and homeowner brutality is just as inexcusable as police brutality. If it's wrong for police to take a burglar out back behind the station and work him over with their truncheons, then it's just as wrong for a homeowner to work him over with a baseball bat or something.
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