So Worf can ear a sash, Troi can wear a catsuit but Ro....

[DGCatAniSiri]

I wonder if this can also explain why Troi in Encounter at Farpoint actually did wear a uniform and then next episode got more lax with it. Kinda wish Troi had kept the Farpoint look actually.

From what I understand, Marina Sirits hated the Farpoint look - I think she called it the 'intergalactic cheerleader outfit.'

But I will agree with the general consensus that she looked very nice in the standard uniform and she should have been wearing it the whole time.

 

[Shazam!]

From what I understand, Marina Sirits hated the Farpoint look

Yeah, thanks a lot Marina >: (

 

[rahullak]

She didn't have any problems with her role in Death Wish 3 as I recall.

 

[Shazam!]

7 seasons of Troi in a miniskirt would've been the dream.

 

[Red Ranger]

Troi needed to look less informal in her role of counselor.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if my counselor wore a uniform like my own...not a bunny suit with boobs-a-poppin' and a camel toe.

That's your story, buster! Me, I wouldn't mind having a hard-on the whole time I was being counseled! Of course, being an empath, it wouldn't be a good experience for the lovely Deanna Troi, or as my good friend used to call her, Counselor Cleavage! My fave Troi look was the Season One grey jumpsuit with her hair up in a bun! Yummy!

Back on topic, I prefer Trekker4747's explanation. Troi and Worf earned the right to skirt the dress code, Ro at that point hadn't. And Riker was being a hard-ass with a junior officer with a bad record. He has a history of doing that as first officer.

For example, in Lower Decks, he gave Sam Lavelle a hard time for saying, "Aye, aye, sir," then sniping, "One aye is sufficient, Ensign." Hell, he gave Geordi a hard time for being too familiar with him in Encounter at Farpoint. He said to Geordi, "Is this an official report, Lieutenant," and Geordi adjusted his posture, standing ramrod straight, then gave his report.

Red Ranger

 

[Trekker4747]

I didn't like Troi's "cosmic cheerleader" look. It just didn't "work" for me. But that skirt outfit didn't have the same appeal to it as the TOS skirts, it's possible hosery plays a role in that for me.

Troi's various bunny suits were much nicer looks than her uniform in much of S1 and S2 (the dark one-piece unitard thing) but she did wear a standard duty uniform very, very, well. It also greatly changed my impression on the character.

 

[Genesis Does]

Blind Date.

 

[CoveTom]

Troi had a "civilian position" on the ship. She was a counselor, it makes some sense that when she's talking with her patients she looks as comforting and on-level with them as possible and not like a commanding officer.

That makes sense to a point. But most of the time we're with Troi, she's not doing counseling. Most of the time she's on the bridge, or making contact with aliens as a senior staff member of the ship. When she's on the bridge with the command crew, she should be in standard uniform. Even Jellico didn't specify that she had to wear the uniform when she was doing counseling. He just said that he prefers a certain formality on the bridge. And I think that makes sense when, at any moment, she could be involved in diplomacy with an alien species.

Worf and Troi were model officers who had earned respect through their ranks and thus earned the right for some lax in the dress code.

I agree with that, but again to a point. It's one thing to be working down in Science Lab 47 and have the privilege of being a bit lax in the dress code. It's another to be on the bridge of the Federation flagship or beaming down to alien worlds as a representative of the Federation. At those times, she -- and any officer -- should be expected to be in full compliance with dress code. Laxness in protocol should be saved for other occasions.

 

[Trekker4747]

Worf and Troi were model officers who had earned respect through their ranks and thus earned the right for some lax in the dress code.

I agree with that, but again to a point. It's one thing to be working down in Science Lab 47 and have the privilege of being a bit lax in the dress code. It's another to be on the bridge of the Federation flagship or beaming down to alien worlds as a representative of the Federation. At those times, she -- and any officer -- should be expected to be in full compliance with dress code. Laxness in protocol should be saved for other occasions.

Perhaps. But, most of the time, Starfleet isn't strictly military so maybe they're don't care as much if their "representatives" aren't uniformly sterile-ly the same. Infact, it might help to show that people in the Federation still get to express a bit of indviduality and difference frome one another it makes it look less like the Federation is occupying force that will sterilize your culture and distill it down into adapting to theirs.

Worf wearing his sash and Troi wearing her bunny suit (Betazoids being a bit more of sexual beings) shows that even though they're in the Federation they're still individuals.

"But Ro..."

You say.

Again, she wasn't a model officer and hardly even a model Bajoran so, again, the rein needed to be kept tight with her.

 

[Anwar]

By the way, isn't Ro wearing her earring the way Pagh Wraith worshipers do?

 

[roguephoenix]

OR maybe cause she was just an ensign? >_> note that the other examples have higher ranking. plus she has had a history of insubordination so maybe it's part of starfleet trying to see if she can handle authority. who knows though. if it's a cultural thing, maybe she should have been able to wear it.

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

By the way, isn't Ro wearing her earring the way Pagh Wraith worshipers do?

When she was introduced I don't think any of the intricacies of the Bajoran religion were thought up. The post-finale DS9 novels, where Ro is a major character, says that it's her own act of rebellion against the religion - Ro's definitely not a heavy believer of the Prophets.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

I think Riker was the only one with the problem with Ro's wearing the ear ring; didn't he loose some friends in the incident Ro was involved in?

Picard didn't seem to have a problem with it.

 

[Trekker4747]

I think Riker was the only one with the problem with Ro's wearing the ear ring; didn't he loose some friends in the incident Ro was involved in?

Picard didn't seem to have a problem with it.

Picard, yeah, probably didn't care either way. But it was Riker's duty to keep the ship, and officers, in line. So if Riker wants to bark at Ro for the earring than Picard is OK with it too.

 

[cultcross]

So Riker being an ass had nothing to do with it ?

Showing a semblance of a realistic military officer on a ship run at least somewhat like a military isn't "being an ass" anymore than it was when Picard's crew threw hissy fits over Captain Jellico expecting a tighter ship than Picard.

Trekker is right on the money with the explanation, imho. Worf and Troi were model officers with exemplary records, Ro was court-martialled in disgrace. Therefore, different levels of leniency apply.

 

[KimMH]

Troi needed to look less informal in her role of counselor. As for Worf, I imagine he'd be ripping people's arms out of their sockets if they told him what he could and couldn't wear.

win!

 

[votd]

Maybe it was just health and safety;if she caught the earring on anything it would rip her ear and blood would go all on the nice clean ship.

 

[Alrik]

Maybe it was just health and safety;if she caught the earring on anything it would rip her ear and blood would go all on the nice clean ship.

Not really an issue...Enterprise cleans itself.

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe it was just health and safety;if she caught the earring on anything it would rip her ear and blood would go all on the nice clean ship.

Not really an issue...Enterprise cleans itself.

Yeah, but even the ship hates getting blood stains out.



I think I answered this question perfectly way above there. Ro hadn't earned the leniency to wear the earring.

 

[erastus25]

No no no, you all have it wrong. Ro insisted on wearing her earring on the wrong ear so she didn't get the "cultural sensitivity" pass that Worf got. If she had just worn it on the correct side, like every other Bajoran, it would have been fine.