I've been meaning to ask this since I've only seen a few, but doesn't liking the new console room go against canon?
So who's liking the 2014 TARDIS console room?
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In what sense?
I'm guessing it's a reference to "You've redecorated! ... I don't like it" being a running gag originating with the Second Doctor.
If memory serves, the Seasons 5 - 7a console room was also a complete and utter nightmare to shoot in, with few usable angles due to the reflections from the glass floors.
I feel the "You've Redecorated, I don't like it" line is being way overused now. It was really nice in Day of the Doctor because it's a classic line and used in a previous anniversary show, it was just a nice nod to the past fifty years of the show. However now it's being used too often. It hasn't been used in what 40 years until TDOTD and suddenly it'd being used frequently? Getting silly now. Give it a rest. It's just typical of Moffat to do this kind of thing.
It was used in The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and Closing Time before The Day of the Doctor.
I'm sure there is a bit of movement on the time rotor, there was a close up in one episode where it was moving just not to the extent the older ones did.
Just check out the Bells of St Johns, right at the end. it is the inner part at the top that i can see move
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Yes, it's a sort of spike that retracts into the ceiling when the TARDIS takes off. That's all the movement we have in the middle though - we've sorta traded it off for the rotating bits up top. I suspect it's in part to keep the sound on the main level of the set to a minimum...
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I'm looking at the multicoloured roundels and wondering how I never noticed before that they look exactly like the logo for the company, Target, that produced novelizations of Doctor Who episodes in the 70s and 80s?
I like it a lot, I just wish we saw more of the TARDIS often. In the classic series you'd often see a bedroom or two, or a a hang out place besides the console room, and a workshop. I want to see where the companions sleep, maybe a point can be how they decorate their rooms or whatever. Also want to see where the Doctor sleeps.
The Doctor doesn't sleep.
There are webisodes called the Nights of the Doctor where it shows what he gets up to while Amy and Rory were sleeping, and then Amy gets right pissed off when she figures it out.
You know how Romana said they could fly in City of Death, and how he floated in the Zero Room because it was the Zero Room?
What if he was floating in the Zero Room not because it was the Zero Room, but because he can float when he feels like it?
The 9th Doctor said that he can feel the planet spinning in Rose, which mean that he has a personal relationship with gravity that might mean that the two of them have revised rules compared to everyone else? Even because he can see/feel time like he said he did in the Fires of Pompee that could account for how he can fall so slowly that it looks like he's floating.
I was fussing about how Lucy and Charlotte Pollard were aired simultaneously, when I remembered that Seven had two sets of Companions (Lysandra and Sally vs Ace and Hex.) probably the doors releasing the two teams into different control rooms thousands of miles away from each other...
But there's another webisode where Clara meets herself and then dozens of herself while she's bumping about in the dark because she can't quite get to sleep and the TARDIS is being stroppy.
If the TARDIS or the Doctor can play with localized time that a nights sleep for one of his companions, or even a few hours in their room awake, can seem like not a lot of time to them, but he can have months or years to himself to accomplish any goal he needs to, it is somewhat like having a pause button that works on people.
If he is keeping companions on ice until he feels like being annoyed by them again, who knows how many emergency replacement human beings are in storage somewhere in the bowels of the TARDIS?
Imagine if he doesn't wear the same clothing every day, that he only lets his companion out of stasis after he's got his "adventure" clothes out of the tumble drier? Doesn't that make the man seem a lot less filthy?
In truth he probably has a paradox wardrobe. The Doctor can keep taking the same clothes out of the same paradox wardrobe a fraction of a second before he took them out of the wardrobe a day earlier without the universe collapsing from the clothes not being there any more yesterday after he takes them out today, tomorrow and the day after ad infinitum.
This does mean that he always has clean new clothes, and fresh crisp celery, but it doesn't explain what he does with the old coats and socks that look the same as the next and the last which he only ever wore once.
Donate to good will or incinerate?
Imagine a moon that is nothing but an endless vista of the Doctors balled up used haberdashery excreted from a small mobile wormhole?
There are webisodes called the Nights of the Doctor where it shows what he gets up to while Amy and Rory were sleeping, and then Amy gets right pissed off when she figures it out.
You know how Romana said they could fly in City of Death, and how he floated in the Zero Room because it was the Zero Room?
What if he was floating in the Zero Room not because it was the Zero Room, but because he can float when he feels like it?
The 9th Doctor said that he can feel the planet spinning in Rose, which mean that he has a personal relationship with gravity that might mean that the two of them have revised rules compared to everyone else? Even because he can see/feel time like he said he did in the Fires of Pompee that could account for how he can fall so slowly that it looks like he's floating.
I was fussing about how Lucy and Charlotte Pollard were aired simultaneously, when I remembered that Seven had two sets of Companions (Lysandra and Sally vs Ace and Hex.) probably the doors releasing the two teams into different control rooms thousands of miles away from each other...
But there's another webisode where Clara meets herself and then dozens of herself while she's bumping about in the dark because she can't quite get to sleep and the TARDIS is being stroppy.
If the TARDIS or the Doctor can play with localized time that a nights sleep for one of his companions, or even a few hours in their room awake, can seem like not a lot of time to them, but he can have months or years to himself to accomplish any goal he needs to, it is somewhat like having a pause button that works on people.
If he is keeping companions on ice until he feels like being annoyed by them again, who knows how many emergency replacement human beings are in storage somewhere in the bowels of the TARDIS?
Imagine if he doesn't wear the same clothing every day, that he only lets his companion out of stasis after he's got his "adventure" clothes out of the tumble drier? Doesn't that make the man seem a lot less filthy?
In truth he probably has a paradox wardrobe. The Doctor can keep taking the same clothes out of the same paradox wardrobe a fraction of a second before he took them out of the wardrobe a day earlier without the universe collapsing from the clothes not being there any more yesterday after he takes them out today, tomorrow and the day after ad infinitum.
This does mean that he always has clean new clothes, and fresh crisp celery, but it doesn't explain what he does with the old coats and socks that look the same as the next and the last which he only ever wore once.
Donate to good will or incinerate?
Imagine a moon that is nothing but an endless vista of the Doctors balled up used haberdashery excreted from a small mobile wormhole?
I never really liked the '96 version -- too radical a departure from what had come before. Maybe if it had had more round things...
I think my favorites are the '63 version, the version introduced in "The Five Doctors" (love that console), and the current one, though that's in chronological order rather than by preference. And I like the concept of the '63 version better than the execution. That roundel wallpaper is kind of ridiculous.
I think it's the best since the 96 version which it reminds me of. I like the books all about. I like the Doctor House blackboard. I like the high ceiling. I miss the time rotor too. I am nearly sure there is one episode where we can see it clearly enough that it did actually move up and down.
The bedrooms were mostly a fifth Doctor thing, weren't they? All in all, we didn't see that much of the TARDIS, even in the classic series.
Well, we saw the TARDIS sleeping quarters in "The Daleks" and "The Edge of Destruction" in the first (1963) season. But they didn't revisit them much until John Nathan-Turner's producership (i.e. last year of the Fourth Doctor onward).
In many, perhaps most US markets, our first look at Doctor Who was the Tom Baker run, but in Baker's first season, there was a dispute between the unions about who was responsible for the TARDIS control console -- the props department said it was a special effect and the special-effects department said it was a prop, or something like that -- so they just avoided it for a whole year or more. They even had the characters separated completely from the TARDIS in "The Sontaran Experiment," "Genesis of the Daleks," and most of "Revenge of the Cybermen." The console room wasn't seen until "Planet of Evil." Which means that for the first six weeks of my and many others' exposure to the series (since each serial was aired as a complete "movie," one serial per week), we had no clue what the inside of the TARDIS looked like. I think I was aware that it was bigger on the inside (Harry Sullivan mentioned how roomy it was in "The Ark in Space"), but I didn't know how much bigger or just what it looked like in there.
And then there was the Invasion of Time, where they went right in deep and most of it looked like a 19th century hospital.
The novelization of the Edge of Destruction I think added a lot about travelling in to the TARDIS, because when I finally did see the episodes, a decade later, I was dumbfounded by how little was seen or revealed.
The novelization of the Edge of Destruction I think added a lot about travelling in to the TARDIS, because when I finally did see the episodes, a decade later, I was dumbfounded by how little was seen or revealed.
In "The edge of Destruction" and "The Brink of Disaster" (the episodes that immediately followed the first Dalek serial, we saw some futuristic "murphy beds" in a couple of rooms to the side of the console room. They had a kind of tilde ~ shape rather than being flat. We saw Susan, Barbara and Ian recline upon them, the ladies in one room and Ian in another (no "co-ed" habitation in 1964!). Now, the show may have depicted sleeping quarters in later Hartnell and Troughton stories (since I haven't seen many of those episodes, I can't be sure). But I don't think we saw any bedrooms during the colour era until Tom's final series, during one of the "E-Space" serials, specifically, Romana's personal room. we saw her "moping about" when she thought they would have to return to Gallifrey. the walls, pillars and door set pieces were later reused to represent the various bedrooms we saw during the Peter Davison stories.
Sincerely,
Bill
EDIT: Oops! Looks like I got "ninja'd" when I tried to recall the term "murphy bed".
Sincerely,
Bill
EDIT: Oops! Looks like I got "ninja'd" when I tried to recall the term "murphy bed".
And then came the rather blatant symbolism in "Logopolis," shortly after Romana left, when the Doctor needed to expel much of the TARDIS interior mass to escape the Master's trap and he solemnly intoned, "I'm going to jettison Romana's room!"
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