And regular people liked it just fine.This was done already. For example, the original USS Enterprise bridge, updated for the 21st century:
Fans didn't like that either.
so the producers and writers said that discovery will lead into TOS (60's aesthetics and all)...
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Update? It looks identical to the 1960s bridge.
Technically it looks more like the TMP/TWOK bridge with the 60's screens. However, It's rounded out instead of being octagonal. Hence, slightly updated.
It looks like the never-to-be-finished Axanar bridge, which was the TOS bridge but with touchscreens instead of jelly beans.
As shown earlier in the thread, the DSC bridge looks more like a prequel to the Kelvin movie Enterprise bridges. And contemporaries of the Kobayashi Maru simulator bridge from that same movie.
As shown earlier in the thread, the DSC bridge looks more like a prequel to the Kelvin movie Enterprise bridges. And contemporaries of the Kobayashi Maru simulator bridge from that same movie.
Because it was a reboot. If anyone official had ever said Discovery was a reboot, none of these discussions would be taking place. They've quite clearly said the exact opposite.
Wow. I can't read these posts without thinking... you really, honestly don't like the original Star Trek, do you? Practically every reference you make to it is dismissive, disparaging, and disrespectful.
Let me put a proposition to you: TOS was and is the best Trek series ever aired, hands down. It was the most creatively successful not just in terms of design aesthetics, but in terms of characters, stories, and themes. Every later series (with the partial exception of DS9) is just a degraded photocopy of the original. Every later series is, fundamentally, an expendable part of the larger Trek franchise... whereas TOS is indispensable. Delete it, imagine it gone, and the entire franchise evaporates. Revisiting it, as in those ENT episodes, isn't remotely "a big campy joke"... it is not "cheap," it is not "cornball"... it's a matter of reconnecting to the touchstone that makes Trek what it is.
Whereas if the show doesn't mention the Augment virus... or at least offer some other plausible in-universe explanation that allows us to rationalize these "reimagined" Klingons as somehow congruent with the ones we've seen before... lots of other people will be equally upset, myself included. Guess you can't please everybody, because no matter what, someone's gonna wind up upset. :-)If the show even mentions the Augment virus I will be really upset.
And they're quite clearly lying through their teeth. Either that or their definition of "prime" universe is different than ours.
The original BSG didn't have a huge cult following like Star Trek does. So the producers of nuBSG didn't need to pander to a neurotic fanbase to try to get more people to watch their new show. CBS felt the need to do that.
I don’t see how they’re lying, they’ve yet to seriously violate anything.
TOS is one of my favourite shows too, and it is also my Dad’s, and we both agree the aesthetic would not hold up today.
Agreed, "lying" might be too strong a word. More like, "pulling something out of their ass to get more viewers."
Here's an incomplete render I stumbled upon ages ago but it was titled Pike Bridge and with some either Disco color scheming or TOS color scheming it would really shine as a modern take on the old bridge.
That looks like a great design to start with. Clearly you then got to add more detail and I would want it to be a little bigger and I toss in some differences because Discovery isn't a Constitution class and any changes also have to look like it comes from what we have already seen from the current Discovery bridge. I really like the color of the walls and computers though and also the old fashion rail.
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Which is why I think Disco is set in the Kelvin-timeline and the spore-drive will dump them into something approximating the original timeline or just the continuation of the timeline created in First Contact where Enterprise was set.
Also known as the original timeline.
Discovery is the newer ship, so it should be the other way around.
The color scheme looks great in that render and it is basically what was actually seen in Pike's bridge. I would keep it.
That was the Prime Timeline.
You should, it was incredible. A couple lazy episodes here and there.. but it's space drama done right.
I recall hearing/reading that that is exactly what GR wanted it to be.. that it "always looked like that" because they did not have the budget or technology to make the Enterprise look the way he wanted, which was as it was seen in TMP.
Personally, TMP refit Enterprise is to me, the most beautiful variation of that ship.
But the whole theme of BSG was that this has all happened before and will happen again. So original BSG could have been in the same universe but the new BSG was thousands of years ago - a previous iteration of man vs. cylon. I have always assumed that is what they were driving at.
Except that one episode of the original BSG had the Apollo 11 broadcast.
The original BSG would have been after nuBSG so that doesn't disprove what I said at all. nuBSG is all about explaining how humans got on this Earth thousands of years ago. But again, that is meaningless. The Apollo 11 broadcast could have happened before, it will happen again just like how All Along the Watch Tower happened in nuBSg and Bob Dylan wrote it now.
nuBSG got to "Earth" and it was a nuked out planet where cylons and humans killed each other so they find a new Earth. That other Earth could have been the Earth we live on now, thousands of years in the future or the planet nuBSG goes to could be our Earth thousands of years ago. Original BSG could have happened anytime in between and this cycle of humans and Cyclons fighting is happening over and over again. That is how the two series have been reconciled. I didn't realize some people didn't get that.
It's very much like Wheel of Time Book series. It's a great series that deals with this theme and a good read for those who like that idea.
What I mean is that since we already know what the current bridge of Discovery looks like that it means that if they make changes the changes have to find a middle ground from what they are currently using to what Starfleet will be using in 10 years. I'm not sure a completely new Discovery bridge that instantly looks like that pic, even after more details is what should be done at first. In fact I might even argue that these changes should be more reflected in other Starfleet ships and bases before we start seeing huge changes to Discovery. Like I said above the graphics having more color would be a good start and then more brightness, then perhaps the front conn station and then more TOS style uniforms. If they could gradually work that in over the next few years I think it would be great but we shouldn't see the final product until maybe the last season I even think the last episode or even the last scene.
Jason
Why?
The ships we've seen inside so far are the Shenzhou and a similarly designed Shepard class starship. Both use a redress of the same set, a bridge that looks similar for their "type". Their NCC's are around the 1200-1300 range, and would only have been upgraded technologically, interior decor is lacking on both.
The Crossfield class is an experimental two ship arrangment with spartan interiors everywhere for the nature of their mission.
Secret prototypes and old workhorses. That gives us only a tiny glimpse at the range of interiors out there. Mid 2240's ships of the line with cushier missions could have vastly different internals.
The Crossfield class is an experimental two ship arrangment with spartan interiors everywhere for the nature of their mission.
Secret prototypes and old workhorses. That gives us only a tiny glimpse at the range of interiors out there. Mid 2240's ships of the line with cushier missions could have vastly different internals.
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