Saying that it's a reimagining means that they don't need to give an in-universe explanation for it, because there's nothing to explain. nuBSG didn't give an in-universe reason why it was different from the original BSG.
so the producers and writers said that discovery will lead into TOS (60's aesthetics and all)...
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Saying that it's a reimagining means that they don't need to give an in-universe explanation for it, because there's nothing to explain. nuBSG didn't give an in-universe reason why it was different from the original BSG.
How about WE, the audience, exercise our imaginations and pretend that things in TOS were a little more advanced techwise and aesthetically than what we remember instead of coming up with convoluted time travel plots to needlessly justify why a TV show made fifty years after its predescessor looks different? Don't sweat the small stuff.
but wasnt nuBSG a total reboot? i mean the creators of it never claimed that nuBSG was canon with the original BSG, or vice versa
because im a super geek and i must sweat the small stuff!
There were all kinds of elements that nuBSG had that the original BSG had. The best example is the first-generation Cylons and Cylon Basestars, which were completely identical to the original BSG Cylons. And yet nuBSG was a total reboot as you said. So similar visual elements do not the same universe make.
Unlike tardigrade supercomputerized navigational improbability spore drive. LOL
Tuskin was talking about 1960's visual aesthetics. What you state is not a valid comparison.
i had never seen nuBSG, i admit. what you described sounds pretty cool
Then you need to watch it right now, because it's awesome.
will do! ive always meant to. never got around to it. when the show was on tv i had said to myself "its too late to get into it now, but ill watch the whole thing after the show ends" and days turned into months, and months turned into years, lol
It used to be on Netflix for streaming; I don't know if it still is.
My Bad, didn't notice that he responded to two people in one post.
Very well. Instead of time travel, why don't you say that prior to the mid-2240s to early-2260s when things began to change, Humans had been the dominant species determining the "look" of Starfleet ships, from their external design features to their interior aesthetics. Hence why we get so many early ships following the NX-01 or Kelvinverse design trend, with some outliers like the Daedalus Class or the U/SS Bonaventure from TAS.because im a super geek and i must sweat the small stuff!
But beginning in the 2240s with the Constitution Class, as more species joined the fleet and the existing founding and early members of the Federation began to assert more of a role in starship design, the ships began to follow a less ethnocentric design ethic and started to feature more smooth, simplified, spartan features that weren't recognizably native to any particular culture but were instead born of a union of all the cultures involved. Previously externally carried technology was moved under the skin of the ship to not only protect it from harm but also to make it less recognizable as being the product of any particular species.
Starship design became less of a Human-dominated project and more of a collaborative effort between species, much like the Federation itself. Gradually ships looked less like Discovery and more like the Enterprise.
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^^Off topic, but I'm loving your Porg Borg avatar.
i like this. i like this a lot.
And it was a terrible explanation, pandering to a segment of the fanbase that wouldn't accept any changes to the franchise. Considering the Kelvin looked more advanced than anything seen in TOS, the whole 'the timeline diverged in 2233 because of Nero's incursion and starfleet had greater technological advancements to counter it' explanation makes little sense.
TOS was a series ahead of it's time that didn't have the budget or resources for its creator to fully realise the way he envisioned it. It's also subject to the production values and aesthetic of it's time. When Roddenberry had the means, he updated the entire look of the universe and had it reflect the design aesthetic and production values of the 1970's. Conveniently the changes to the Enterprise could be explained away as a refit. Unfortunately Discovery doesn't have that luxury. It's 2017 and people just need to accept that a star trek series made now is going to look more advanced than any of the series that came before. I'm sure if Roddenberry had access to what's available today from a production standpoint, he would have used it to full effect.
I was thinking that it would be cool if, sometime during STD, they show a Constitution-class ship and it looked exactly the way it did in TOS, and there would be some throwaway line from one of the Discovery crew saying that Starfleet decided to go for a different look for the Constitution-class.
For me, that'd be perfect.
For me, that'd be perfect.
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I haven't actually read it yet myself, but didn't David Mack's novel Desperate Hours address the differences in uniforms seen on Discovery and in the original series? Novels aren't canon of course, but Mack worked closely with the Discovery writers room while working on this novel. If memory serves, some of the incidental details that he created for the novel were passed on to the actors as background for their characters.
i hear you my friend. i just wouldve preferred that they just declare this a total reboot that had no connection whatsoever to any of the previous series so thered be no restrictions. or just set it far after voyager.
that being said, i think STD is a fine show
MAYBE Discovery never changes by the end of the series, except maybe for TOS uniforms. Either throwaway lines about Constitution class being the new design or the Fleet, or just an interior the Enterprise bridge as it looked in TOS?
I agree, I think it was a bit silly to say it was set in the prime timeline. I think that was more to appease people who thought creating a series before TOS set in a new universe would 'erase' TOS. I really like Discovery as well but I would have preferred it to be set after Voyager, that way the universe could have been taken in any directions with no restrictions as you said.
Having said that, I thought the 60's inspired costume design for Stella Mudd and her father looked great. I'd be keen to see a retro yet updated version of the TOS uniforms in discovery.
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