Spoilers So now Discovery is 'synched-up' with canon

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Amasov, Apr 20, 2019.

  1. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 2, 2017
    I don't think cliffhanging is the norm at all these days. Off the top of my head:
    • Game of Thrones has always had the convention that the big action piece happens earlier in the season (usually the penultimate episode) with the season finale being a quieter, more character focused episode
    • There were no major cliffhangers in any of the three seasons of The Expanse
    • The different Netflix shows I have watched (Stranger Things, Altered Carbon, Lost in Space, etc) pretty definitively closed their arcs rather than end on a cliffhanger.
    Could you please tell me what shows you're thinking of here?
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  2. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

    Jan 26, 2019
    That's a bit reductive, but I am glad that after several decades, TV programming in general and science fiction in particular has caught up with what I have wanted TV programming to be since I was young. IE novel length stories. I guess I was ahead of my time.
  3. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

    Jan 30, 2001
    Covington, Ky. USA
    Except for neither one did all that much exploring.
  4. SolarisOne

    SolarisOne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jun 7, 2016
    the Irish region of ch'Rihan. RIP.
    Sad, but true.
  5. JoeZhang

    JoeZhang Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 9, 2008
    I was thinking about this - how many episodes of TNG actually start with them on a mission of exploration?
  6. Shawnster

    Shawnster Commodore Commodore

    Jul 28, 2008
    Clinton, OH
    Which was a point I made in another discussion. I was talked down and the response was it was necessary to reboot/set in the TOS era all of these new Trek's (DISCO, JJ-Prize) because it appeals to the casual viewer. If DISCO would have been set in some future time, it would have not appealed to the casual viewer and never succeeded.

    Guess what - DISCO Season 3 is 950 years into Trek's future! What happened? Is the casual viewer going to understand? Were 2 seasons in the TOS era enough for any casual viewer to understand the leap? Isn't that the opposite of what a casual viewer is? Does DISCO season 3 not need casual viewers? Does Trek now no longer need casual viewers?

    Which is it?

    I wish they would have set DISCO 950 years in the future to begin with. What's past is literally prologue now. New viewers could start with Season 3 and, in theory, not be lost at all.

    It's like they are making this stuff up as they go along.

    Waited decades for serialized Trek and they still can't seem to do a decent job. Moments of brilliance, yes. Cohesive whole from start to finish? No.
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  7. anh165

    anh165 Commander Red Shirt

    Apr 4, 2012
    I think they are doing a great job keeping Trek alive in today’s climate, here’s to season 3.

    Far too many folk trying to redirect Trek to where they want it to go (i.e back to how it was in 1998) I worry the more the studios listen to the most vocal ‘fans’, the more likely Trek will get scrapped.
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  8. Tyr

    Tyr Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Aug 9, 2015
    Most of them started with them on a mission of exploration. The first Captain's log described that in most episodes. What happened afterwards is a different thing, but they mostly started on explorarory missions.

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 15, 2001
    Studios don’t listen to fans. Never had never will. They listen to bean counters who will tell them what will generate more money. These bean counters told them initially that they needed to do a prequel to generate most money possible. Now same bean counters are telling them to go the future to generate most money. Are bean counters idiots? More likely yes than no. Are studios going to stop listening to them? Also, no.
  10. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Admiral Admiral

    Apr 11, 2014
    When it's our millions of dollars to spend then I'll expect them to listen to us.
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  11. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 24, 2001
    Oh, ok.
  12. JoeZhang

    JoeZhang Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 9, 2008
    I randomly had a look at season 4 and out of the first 15 episodes only three start with a mission of exploration.