If you're faced with the choice between screwing up a preexisting planet or coming up with something new, isn't one of these choices better than the other?
So long, George
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If you're faced with the choice between screwing up a preexisting planet or coming up with something new, isn't one of these choices better than the other?
I think he was talking about more Red Tails. That might be good, too. He's got a crew lined up now who know how to translate Star Wars to TV well, if he wants to take what's been started with The Clone Wars and slant it more grownup and make it live-action.
So, the TV show changed something from a book that only .5% of the fanboy crazies are going to care about or even realize? BFD.
Besides, hasn't what's considered the EU been being contradicted since 1980?
If the book had already established something fairly well, why trod over it instead of using what was already there?
I hadn't read these particular SW books, but I know in years past, LFL actually made some effort to keep all the EU stuff more or less working together. These changes just basically threw everything out the window. And for what?
I sure hope so. Personally I hope George pays attention. The wind is shifting when it comes to perspective on the PT and has been for some time. Maybe not around here but this board is a haven for stubborn old farts.This thread on TF.N gives me hope for the future of SW fandom.
Wow, I've avoided the TF.N forums for several years, after Lucas dropped those shovel-ware, laserdisc transfers of the OT on barebones DVD and there were Lucas sycophants defending the decision because, among other reasons, movies made before 1997 couldn't be put on DVD in 16x9, so this was as good as George was able to give us (conveniently ignoring the hundreds maybe thousands of pre-DVD movies already on DVD in 16x9 widescreen transfers).
But just reading the first few posts, it seems there's some reasonable people there now, and they're saying the same thing I've been saying for a while now: TPM is the best prequel, and far closer to the OT then AOTC and ROTS.
Regarding not violating Book Canon, don't many of the books step on each other canon-wise? How does one make the time to read 1000 extended Universe books, in order to write one script, and once you do, how does one decide which Canon is sacred, and which Canon is OK to violate?
Depends on better serves the story you're telling.
I haven't been into Star Wars lit in years, but I seem to recall there was actually somebody at LFL that would go over the book outlines and note major inconsistencies to be fixed. This seemed to work fairly well for many years as they even managed to get all the old comics and novels from the 70's and 80's to mostly fit in with the newer stuff when they started up again in the late 80's/90's. That's why it was so shocking to much of the fandom when they dumped the Mandalore stuff from the novels and made new stuff for the animated series.
More importantly, why would one want to read 1000 EU books? I mean most of it is so bloody awful, he'd wind up killing himself just so he didn't have to finish.
[Good] Story should NEVER be sacrificed in favor of that canon nonsense. It's something "fan-boys" never seem to understand.
While, certainly, vetting each outline is an impressive step, there's an awful lot that could sneak through in the final book. Take for instance a character has a scar, and you are writing a book set 2 years before the character got the scar, and you happen to mention the scar in your book, because you know the character has that scar, but, just didn't know it occurred 2 years later in the timeline. Or any number of things could be contradictory in dialog.
For what they perceive to be the good of the Clone Wars TV series...something they care about a TON more than any EU novel, I'm sure. The show has a larger fanbase and drives much more profit, no doubt.
(I assume we are talking about the Mandalore/Republic Commando inconsistencies. I could be wrong)
I don't know why this is even a story. Lucas said 15 years ago when the Special Editions came out that he wasn't going to do a sequel trilogy. If he really wants to do something, he would do it because he can. Of course, he's talked about doing smaller films for almost as long and for some reason has said he couldn't do it in the past. I don't understand that to tell you the truth.
I think some of the personal attacks on Lucas over the years have been ridiculous. The whole "he raped my childhood" nonsense but reinforces all the negative stereotypes people have about sci-fi/fantasy fans. The attacks about Lucas's professional career and his filmmaking ability are valid.
I think if he would just release a normal copy of the original trilogy, that would be fine with most people. But then again some some of these fanboys still won't be happy until Lucas comes to their homes to personally apologize and kiss their ass. And then they still wouldn't be happy.
I think some of the personal attacks on Lucas over the years have been ridiculous. The whole "he raped my childhood" nonsense but reinforces all the negative stereotypes people have about sci-fi/fantasy fans. The attacks about Lucas's professional career and his filmmaking ability are valid.
I think if he would just release a normal copy of the original trilogy, that would be fine with most people. But then again some some of these fanboys still won't be happy until Lucas comes to their homes to personally apologize and kiss their ass. And then they still wouldn't be happy.
I dunno. Ask George Lucas. When making the prequels, didn't he completely ignore the Clone Wars stuff that Timothy Zahn set up in the popular Thrawn trilogy? And give a completely different origin for Boba Fett than what was given in the books?
Why should Lucas follow anything from the Star Wars books?
In the end, the EU is nothing but fan fiction endorsed by his company. There are good books, but also plenty of bad. Star Wars is HIS story and the books should follow what Lucas writes (movies), NOT the other way around.
Exactly my point.
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I think you mean more like .5% of the audience. By definition the "fanboy crazies" would realize it and probably care about it.
Imaginary mutual exclusivity can't be manufactured out of thin air. That's something TCW's excuse-makers never seem to understand.
It does not take throwing out or screwing up previous canon to create a [Good] story. A talented writer would be able to produce a good story while still remaining true to existing facts. It's been done. The inability to do so, and its attendant lack of thoughtfulness and creativity, is not the mark of good writing; in fact, quite the opposite.
Wait... you're saying the theforce.net gives you hope for the future???
I sure hope so. Personally I hope George pays attention. The wind is shifting when it comes to perspective on the PT and has been for some time. Maybe not around here but this board is a haven for stubborn old farts.
I think he was talking about more Red Tails. That might be good, too. He's got a crew lined up now who know how to translate Star Wars to TV well, if he wants to take what's been started with The Clone Wars and slant it more grownup and make it live-action.
You know, I was joking about him thinking of a SW TV series as a smaller movie, but in all seriousness, I really want to see it made at some point. I'd definitely give it a good chance.
existing IMAGINARY facts.
Beat me too it. There are [hundreds of] thousands of pages of SW lit and game resources out there-- much of it contradictory. It is completely unrealistic to expect a movie or TV production to be beholden to every little tiny detail of it.
Nor should they be. Especially if it's tiny.
And regarding the Mandalore thing. Perhaps they changed the "facts" from the EU for the Clone Wars because it would be more EFFECTIVE to use the Mandalore's to tell the story, rather than creating a new planet, a new race to satisfy the needs of the few.
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