So long, George

[Admiral James Kirk]

George is unfortunately a bit like Roddenberry. Both had great initial ideas, but need other creative people to flesh them out and make them work.

From Cracked.com:6 Pop Culture Visionaries Who Get Too Much Credit

Both Roddenberry and Lucas are on the list. Along with, among others, Stan Lee, JJ Abrahms and Matt Groening.

So basically everybody who was ever anybody is overrated? It's amazing anything becomes popular considering how much everybody on the internet hates everything.

 

[Myasishchev]

George is unfortunately a bit like Roddenberry. Both had great initial ideas, but need other creative people to flesh them out and make them work.

From Cracked.com:6 Pop Culture Visionaries Who Get Too Much Credit

Both Roddenberry and Lucas are on the list. Along with, among others, Stan Lee, JJ Abrahms and Matt Groening.

So basically everybody who was ever anybody is overrated? It's amazing anything becomes popular considering how much everybody on the internet hates everything.

I see no reason to place all the credit with one person in what are fundamentally, and massively, collaborative media.

Groening can take all the credit for Life in Hell, though. Man, that strip was awesome.

 

[Harvey]

I never really thought of "Tucker" as a small project. I also tended to think of the success of that film being tied directly to Coppola, not Lucas.

It cost $24 million. Chump change compared to the prequels, but not as "small" as his earlier films, true. Lucas paid for the entire film himself, though, and also talked Coppola out of making it a musical. I don't think his influence should be underestimated.

 

[Broccoli]

Thank god. Now maybe fanboys will shut up. They seriously have made it impossible to even like STAR WARS. Just in general. So much whining and bitching.

(Yes, I know it's the internet, but still, the constant battles has gotten old...)

Fanboys are never happy.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Jesus H, I thought from the title he'd died!

This doesn't sound like a retirement to me so much as a shift to other projects. I'm interested to see what he comes up with.

Artistically, perhaps.

 

[Set Harth]

Not all the piss and whining was over better decisions needing to be made, a lot was over people bitching and complaining cause the prequels or clone wars didn't match what they expected them to be or weren't the stories they wanted.

I'm not going to take it as a personal affront the way some fans seem to do every time there's even a whiff of a rumor that something might be exactly the way it's told in the EU or doesn't jive with fanon.

There's a lot of conflating of separate issues here; what is underemphasized is the effect of TCW's constant careless and unnecessary trampling of existing canon. For example, turning Dathomir and other things into a huge mess could easily fall into the "bad decision" category. And something not adhering to fanon is often a good thing, because much so-called fanon is nonsense.

really don't like the new "Nooo" in ROTJ cause I think it steals away from the emotion of the moment

That's what makes it a bad decision. But no, people are just bitching because a ridiculous Vader scream prematurely warning the Emperor is not what they wanted to see. It's not that it sucks or anything.

 

[lennier1]

Howard - The Prequel???

 

[Gov Kodos]

I liked Howard the Duck. Much more entertaining that the SW prequels or Nolan's Batman films.

 

[Disruptor]

Lucas treated the Star Wars movies the way Michael Jackson treated his nose and wonders why some people think he's a little batshit.

 

[Set Harth]

Oh, I take it you didn't hear the retcon?

There was nothing wrong with Michael Jackson at all.

It was all Big Bad Conrad Murray's fault.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Thank god. Now maybe fanboys will shut up. They seriously have made it impossible to even like STAR WARS. Just in general. So much whining and bitching.

(Yes, I know it's the internet, but still, the constant battles has gotten old...)

Fanboys are never happy.

Before they internet they were, before the internet they were. At least through my rose colored glasses...

 

[Mach5]

Do you think that, in the event of The Phantom Menace 3-D's huge success, he'll forget he ever said any of this?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Lucas...wonders why some people think he's a little batshit.

Well, he may wonder but I don't - I've seen enough small-minded hysteria over trivia not to find it surprising any more, much less puzzling.

 

[SeerSGB]

Not all the piss and whining was over better decisions needing to be made, a lot was over people bitching and complaining cause the prequels or clone wars didn't match what they expected them to be or weren't the stories they wanted.

I'm not going to take it as a personal affront the way some fans seem to do every time there's even a whiff of a rumor that something might be exactly the way it's told in the EU or doesn't jive with fanon.

There's a lot of conflating of separate issues here; what is underemphasized is the effect of TCW's constant careless and unnecessary trampling of existing canon. For example, turning Dathomir and other things into a huge mess could easily fall into the "bad decision" category. And something not adhering to fanon is often a good thing, because much so-called fanon is nonsense.

really don't like the new "Nooo" in ROTJ cause I think it steals away from the emotion of the moment

That's what makes it a bad decision. But no, people are just bitching because a ridiculous Vader scream prematurely warning the Emperor is not what they wanted to see. It's not that it sucks or anything.

Again: So TCW stomps all over the EU? Lucas has always said that the books were one thing, Star Wars was another. It was the company that decided that it all had to mesh some how. I don't care if TCW contradicts the books, same way I don't care if a Trek show or movie contradicts the books.

That's not a bad decision unless you are a hard-line everything is canon sort of person; which Lucas isn't.

And, yeah, a lot of panties are in a not cause of Lucas ignoring EU or ignoring fanon. I don't think the Prequels are as good as the Classic Three, but they're good in their own way; not the crimes against humanity that some fans would have you believe by the way they carry on.

 

[Admiral James Kirk]

Do you think that, in the event of The Phantom Menace 3-D's huge success, he'll forget he ever said any of this?

I sure hope so. Personally I hope George pays attention. The wind is shifting when it comes to perspective on the PT and has been for some time. Maybe not around here but this board is a haven for stubborn old farts. This thread on TF.N gives me hope for the future of SW fandom.

 

[barnaclelapse]

I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy PM. I guess you'll have to throw me into the stubborn old farts category, but I've just never been a huge, huge Star Wars fan to begin with. I enjoy stuff to do with the franchise, but it never had the impact on me that it had on some others.

I'd love to see Lucas work at some smaller projects. I'm actually interesting in this new one that's coming out.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The Prequel Trilogy didn't impress me very much. That said, they didn't upset me, either. They're movies.

 

[Broccoli]

But...but...but...as a fan, Lucas owed me to make good movies!!!!!111!!!one!!!!!

 

[Holdfast]

Scared me, I thought maybe he had passed on!

Interesting "retirement", I'll be curious what his small movies are like.

smaller movie = that Star Wars live action TV series...

 

[Professor Zoom]

The Prequel Trilogy didn't impress me very much. That said, they didn't upset me, either. They're movies.

This. I enjoyed them for what they were. And I recognize the flaws. But he didn't rape my childhood.