That might explain why Star Wars is much better on TV lately compared with the awful movies, then. Perhaps George has no particular opinion to inflict on TV?
So long, George
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That might explain why Star Wars is much better on TV lately compared with the awful movies, then. Perhaps George has no particular opinion to inflict on TV?
He already did that; it's the only version available on home video at the moment, too.
How would that be a middle finger to the fans unless GRRM died on purpose just to screw them?
There was nothing rushed about the prequels. One difference between big movies and TV is that TV is done more quickly and cheaper.
I just read the piece on this at the NYT and my takeaway is - god bless him, and let the fanboys find something new to bitch about instead of becoming artists themselves.
I just read the piece on this at the NYT and my takeaway is - god bless him, and let the fanboys find something new to bitch about instead of becoming artists themselves.
I wonder if Lucas will pull a Favre.
Actually he already did, and it was completely ignored. And in that case he made a number of editorial changes to the film as well and it's doubtful we'll ever see the original version again. (The good news is unlike some of the unnecessary add-ons to the original trilogy, most of the changes to THX were actually improvements, though the Blu-ray is unplayable by many BD players without added memory; seriously - it's the only disc I've ever successfully received a full cash refund for at Best Buy because it wouldn't play.)
As for his retirement, he can blame the fans all he wants, but the general consensus is that his editorial changes to the original films weren't necessary, and that the prequel trilogy really wasn't very good.
I do agree that some of the fan reaction has been really out of line - the whole "George Lucas raped my childhood" B.S. And I do feel that it helped give birth to the "bite the creator" movement - the really toxic fan atmosphere created by some factions of fandom regarding, for example, Rick Berman during the Enterprise era (it was bad before but it got verifiably insane after 2001), Russell T Davies (substitute "xxx raped my childhood" with any sentence incorporating the phrase "gay agenda"), etc. Some fans have started to take it as not only a personal affront but a violation of their personal religion if the creative team behind a show or franchise they like do something that they don't approve of, rather than putting up, shutting up, and moving on like they used to do.
Of course this is nothing new as those who lived through, say, the "fire John Nathan Turner" lobby in the waning years of the original Doctor Who can attest. But the Internet amplifies things, and provides an excuse for people to make insane statements behind the (alleged) anonymity of the Net. Like those who talked about firebombing Rick Berman's house and the like, simply because they didn't like a simple TV show. When some of the guys who were very vocal about JNT back in 1988-89, they put their names to their criticism, and they received the lawyer letters from the BBC. These days people think that just because the screen shows (for example) 23skidoo they can say whatever they like. Not true, of course, but that doesn't stop people from running off at the mouth. And it can get dicey if they don't have training in detecting and preventing libel.
All that said Lucas needs a thicker skin. He wins by the pure virtue of a) having more money than likely the annual income of all his critics combined (note I said critics - critics are always the tiny minority); b) in 20-30-40 years no one will care whether people got pissed off that Greedo shot first or Jar-Jar was a dick; c) last I looked people are still buying the Blu-rays and watching the movies when they come on TV. Just like all the anti-TNG movement of the late 1980s mattered not a squat in the long term. And if Star Wars 7 were to be released tomorrow it would be the No. 1 movie of 2012, hands down, just as if that live-action TV series were ever to be made, it'll make some hefty coin for whoever airs it. People bitching about so-and-so raping their childhood have zero impact on the bottom line.
Alex
Right up to the frickin' end and then it went crazy (IMO) once THX hits the streets.
From Cracked.com:6 Pop Culture Visionaries Who Get Too Much Credit
Both Roddenberry and Lucas are on the list. Along with, among others, Stan Lee, JJ Abrahms and Matt Groening.
Radioland Murders?
Maul coming back is retarded.
But it's good to know that Katie Lucas is being hailed just because it will continue to piss people off. Tee hee.
That's the goal, right? Not quality. More like the exact opposite: the anger of people who wanted to see better decisions.
Didn't the Bush presidency teach anyone that handing the keys to the kingdom over to the kids might not be the best idea?
milo bloom said:
They should get Rick Berman. That'll work.
I never saw the prequel movies in the theatre. I've never even seen them on TV, at least not all the way through. I really did try, but they were just so ungodly BORING!
I was 14 when Star Wars came out in 1977. I remember lining up in huge crowds that stretched for blocks. I remember the amazing special effects, the feeling of vertigo I got when Luke dove into the trench on the Death Star to do his final run. I remember actually being SCARED of Darth Vader!
And Han shot first, dammit!
I've no interest in any more Star Wars movies. I don't even go to movies anymore - haven't been to a theatre in over 10 years. So I just file away the original trilogy among my treasured teenage/young adult memories when a Star Wars movie was a Special Event, and the movies weren't tampered with just because better special effects came out. I've got the original trilogy on commercial VHS, so I can enjoy it as often as I wish, in its purest form (although it really was meant to be seen on the big screen - anybody who never saw the original trilogy in a theatre really missed out on a wonderful experience).
I was 14 when Star Wars came out in 1977. I remember lining up in huge crowds that stretched for blocks. I remember the amazing special effects, the feeling of vertigo I got when Luke dove into the trench on the Death Star to do his final run. I remember actually being SCARED of Darth Vader!
And Han shot first, dammit!
I've no interest in any more Star Wars movies. I don't even go to movies anymore - haven't been to a theatre in over 10 years. So I just file away the original trilogy among my treasured teenage/young adult memories when a Star Wars movie was a Special Event, and the movies weren't tampered with just because better special effects came out. I've got the original trilogy on commercial VHS, so I can enjoy it as often as I wish, in its purest form (although it really was meant to be seen on the big screen - anybody who never saw the original trilogy in a theatre really missed out on a wonderful experience).
Not all the piss and whining was over better decisions needing to be made, a lot was over people bitching and complaining cause the prequels or clone wars didn't match what they expected them to be or weren't the stories they wanted.
Yeah, the various special editions of the movies are annoying at times ( really don't like the new "Nooo" in ROTJ cause I think it steals away from the emotion of the moment) but you know what, I'm not going to take it as a personal affront the way some fans seem to do every time there's even a whiff of a rumor that something might be exactly the way it's told in the EU or doesn't jive with fanon.
Is Katie Lucas disliked? From what I've seen of Clone Wars, the episodes she's written have been okay.
From the special features, I love the fact that they don't even try to hide the fact that her hiring had little to do with writing talent and all the do with her being Lucas's daughter. At least she didn't try to bluff and claim the opposite.
Thank god. Now maybe fanboys will shut up. They seriously have made it impossible to even like STAR WARS. Just in general. So much whining and bitching.
(Yes, I know it's the internet, but still, the constant battles has gotten old...)
(Yes, I know it's the internet, but still, the constant battles has gotten old...)
Is Katie Lucas disliked? From what I've seen of Clone Wars, the episodes she's written have been okay.
From the special features, I love the fact that they don't even try to hide the fact that her hiring had little to do with writing talent and all the do with her being Lucas's daughter. At least she didn't try to bluff and claim the opposite.
Let's say she doesn't do well with online fans or the whole "raped my childhood" crowd. I've like the shows she's written, but yeah her and fandom...she really needs to calm down when dealing with online fans.
I know. It feels like the last few years that being a SW fan means hating everything SW, or loving the EU and hating the movies.
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